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] Date Posted: 22:24:50 10/29/04 Fri In reply to: Roberdin 's message, "Cornwall" on 19:31:40 10/28/04 Thu "the majority of its population wish to remain that way." The majority of its population also happen to be from over the Cornish border... What a coincidence. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: A Nonny Moose [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:39:53 10/29/04 Fri Come on... we all know that, despite the occasional reference to some kind of Celtic identity, you're all English really. Maybe it was to do with colonisation. In fact, I know it was. But think of it this way: would you expect the Aussies, Yanks or Canucks to give back their land because of the (admittedly reprehensible) acts of their forefathers hundreds of years ago? Would you ask all of the Anglo-Irish to pack their bags and head back where they came from, even though they now form as integral a part of their native society as the Gaels? No. So why would you ask the "English majority" to go back to where they came from? They came from Cornwall. There is no Celtic identity left. Nobody speaks Cornish except for show. You eat scones and clotted cream, you drink cider, you listen to Radio 4 and, ultimately, you need to remain British to survive - you live in a poor county on the tip of a poor peninsula, with no industry, few natural resources, no transport infrastructure and not one university (though Falmouth Art College isn't half bad). An independent Cornwall would never work. I would request that you refrain from spouting such piffle in the future and get a proper hobby. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: 51st state [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 02:15:54 10/30/04 Sat "you're all English really" You're all Americans now. You're colonised by the Americans. You speak like them. Your music is American. Your Army is out for their hire. You're Americans in denial. Unless Brussels pips DC to the post. We all know where every Brit PM since MacMillan has taken order from. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Roberdin [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:52:35 10/30/04 Sat Do not be foolish. Merely because our government is bending over to lick your shoes does not mean the people of this country respect you. Most people here find the US Army to be a joke - when have they ever won a war by themselves? And as for the government, well, you should have watched Have I Got News For You yesterday: 'You know, you really should try a president with a three figure IQ.' 'We tried that with Carter... it didn't really work. I guess we're not a three-figure IQ country.' As for speaking like you... that's true, but only because you speak like us - check the name of the language you're writing in - I'll give you a clue, it starts with E. No matter how deformed you might have made it, it is at its core English. We have a monarchy which the world respects, and its not going anywhere. Even Bush had to enter through the servant passage rather than the traditional red carpet treatment that is usually given to foreign heads of state. Post script: Nice to see you still spell colonised the British English way. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Gomac [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:05:21 10/31/04 Sun >You speak like them. In some ways yes, in other ways most definatly not. English English has always evolved and taken in from outside influences. >Your music is American. Or is American music English? >Your Army is out for their hire. Sadly true. >You're Americans in denial. If Brits are americans in denial then Americans are brits in denial. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: anon [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:26:58 11/03/04 Wed "is American music English?" Most of it, no. Undoubtedly there is some English influence but the roots of Jazz and Blues are mainly non-English, coming from Africa and France and Spanish cultures, and country music comes partly from Scotland and Ireland (with some input from England no doubt). These two are the parents of rock and roll... rap, funk, disco etc, none of these are English (rap is arguably not music either!!!). England's answer has been to adapt heavy metal and punk, but it can still be argued these aren't English genres. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:01:21 11/03/04 Wed Jazz and Blues were invented by Gershwin when he blended some African influences with the Ashkenazi Klezmer tradition. One only has to look at his use of homophonic harmonisation and his use of polyphonic structural texture, not to mention syncopation, to realise this. Compare it with some of Bartok's middle streichquartette and the codified scores of what used to be called "Negro Spirituals" (which actually emerged in the British sugar islands). Neither of these things are British or American. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: anon [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:41:48 11/04/04 Thu "Jazz and Blues were invented by Gershwin when he blended some African influences with the Ashkenazi Klezmer tradition. One only has to look at his use of homophonic harmonisation and his use of polyphonic structural texture, not to mention syncopation, to realise this. Compare it with some of Bartok's middle streichquartette and the codified scores of what used to be called "Negro Spirituals" (which actually emerged in the British sugar islands). "Neither of these things are British or American." Jazz comes out of ragtime and the negro spiritual though, which predate Gershwin. I think the spiritual actually DOES have some English influences on it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Matt(Cornwall) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:01:56 10/30/04 Sat I'm Cornish and I want Cornwall to have as much power as possible within the United Kingdom. Mebyon Kernow want Cornwall to have its own regional assembly outside of the South West because they believe that this best serves the Cornish people and our herritage. No one is suggesting that Cornwall wants to leave the UK...that is pure stupidity and every1 in Cornwall is intelligent enough to realise this however whats wrong with a regional assembly within the FC for Cornwall which has a distinct culture. There are Cornish decendents in many parts of the world, who are proud of it...why? becasue Cornish Engineers and miners played a key role in the industrialisation of the world back in the 19th century. It is true that we are a poor county (one of the poorest), it is true we no longer have industry and it is also true that we have a lame duck for transportation but why does this mean no assembly for Cornwall. With Cornish people managing Cornish affairs the county may be able to dig itself out. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:31:37 10/30/04 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Roberdin [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:54:00 10/30/04 Sat Well, if the people over there are up for it, then I see no problem really. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:58:56 11/02/04 Tue A South-West parliament could do just a sgood a job for Cornwall without wasting money on even more needless politicians and civil servants. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Curnoack. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 05:10:07 11/04/04 Thu Of the 56 most deprived areas in Devon and Cornwall, 51 were in Cornwall. Because of this, the higher GDP and non-colonial status of Devon masked the Cornish failure, and restricted funding. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |