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] Date Posted: 13:02:02 11/03/04 Wed In reply to: Ed Harris (Venezia) 's message, "Four more years!" on 12:39:23 11/03/04 Wed [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:51:32 11/03/04 Wed ... because if I were not a monarchist and a great fan of the other three major countries of the Commonwealth, then I would certainly become a Fifty-First Stater. Britain has lost its way, and needs a new form of political relationship with another country, or other countries, to revitalise the nation and restore a sense of who we are. In that context, my prefered options would be, in order of preference: 1st) Reunification of the British World, or at any rate closer ties with the Commonwealth in an attempt to make that organisation meaningful. 2nd) Condoleeza Rice's suggestion that we should join NAFTA and eventually incorporate ourselves into a union of the USA, Canada and the UK. 3rd) GIve British independence from Europe a chance and see where that leaves us in a generation or two. ... ... 4,906,896th) the European Union. Let's hope that we find something better than Option 4,906,896!) [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:29:56 11/03/04 Wed Join a greater Azerbaijan... [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:15:14 11/04/04 Thu I read an interesting study a few years ago on the subject of the UK and Japan. There was a lot of dated Freudian guff about how a people which lives on an island and has an overseas empire is necessarily going to produce a national mentality similar to another island which has an overseas empire etc etc. But the thesis was quite interesting, and listed all the similarities between the Japanese and the British, and not just in terms of historical parallels (which are eerily numerous). Such things as the fact that, in Asia, the Japanese are seen as funny old-fashioned people with a hereditary monarchy, who are always insisting on quaint old etiquette like bowing, and forever carrying round umbrellas. Does this, by any chance, remind you of the way in which Europeans see the British? So perhaps we should go for option 4,906,895 - union with Japan! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:37:54 11/04/04 Thu Yes, if only we had their railway system ;-) There are indeed many similarities. However, where the similarities end is the fact that Japan is not seeking to place control of its economy, currency, legal system, immigration, trade, employment laws and defence, in the hands of their neighbours (China, Russia and North Korea) [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:50:05 11/04/04 Thu Rabid Europhobe as I am, I would hardly put Belgium, Denmark, and Portugal in the same league as North Korea, China and Russia! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:16:42 11/04/04 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:27:03 11/04/04 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Even some Germans aren't that keen on it | |
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Author: Curnoack [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:04:14 11/05/04 Fri Regarding Europe... "Rabid Europhobe as I am, I would hardly put Belgium, Denmark, and Portugal in the same league as North Korea, China and Russia!" Many of the people in these countries actually have the same fears you do. I was in Germany in '02... far from being the rabid pro-Europeans they are made out to be, in actual fact many of them were opposed to the Euro, and the large amounts of cash they had to hand over to the EU... Yet if you look at the media, one side will have you think the Germans are the biggest Europhiles of the lot, and the other that they want to make it a fourth Reich. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Paddy (Scotland) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:01:46 11/05/04 Fri Those bastions of enlightenment! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |