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Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 17:42:09 11/03/04 Wed
In reply to: Nick (UK) 's message, "Divisions" on 13:18:08 11/03/04 Wed

I was only joking, you know! I'm not giving away my favourite source of moorland walks and cream-teas to the French... I only wanted to highlight, in a slightly facetious way, the somewhat tenuous claims of the Cornish Independence lot... what're they called, Mebyon Kernow, is it?

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Date Posted: 03:04:05 11/04/04 Thu

Tony Blair is the only ever British Labour PM who has had a majority in England. This is the compliment to Scots and Welsh arguments that Conservative governments represent England and not the Celtic parts of the Union: every single non-Conservative government since 1707 has been the result of Celtic votes, not English ones... it could be argued, therefore, that Scots complaints about unrepresentative English conservatism could be countered by arguments about unrepresentative Scots radicalism.

Tony knows that his English majority is a freak, and that, after him, Labour will never have a majority in England again. In this context, his devolutionary politics are a paradox: they simultaneously prevent Scots and Welsh socialists from being drowned by English Tory votes and undermine the over-weighting of Scotland and Wales in parliament which has given Labour and the Liberals their only successes in Westminster.

Peculiar...

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