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] Date Posted: 13:18:08 11/03/04 Wed In reply to: Jim (Canada) 's message, "Revised FC Parliament" on 19:05:15 10/28/04 Thu Yeah, don't give Cornwall to the French, what are you thinking? Brittany's not a bad place. And of course while we're at it Calais should really be ours too.... I'm with you '?' (though I'd rather people used their names on the forum, assuming you weren't christened '?', in which case I apologise and sympathise - it must be tough). I think there's no harm at all in recognising our differences as a way of binding together what unites us. The Channel Islands may have experienced a lot of English migration in the last Century, which no doubt changed their appearance and culture radically, but the fact remains they are both the oldest subjects of the crown and seemingly the most content - why? In my view because they're left to make their own decisions within an undeniably British but laissez faire system. Centralisation tends to breed resentment in the periphery, and that's why I think England should be sub-divided into smaller units, and indeed, I would also support equal representation for the regions in the upper house. However, at the end of the day this is a democracy, and many people are yet to be convinced of the merits of this. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:42:09 11/03/04 Wed I was only joking, you know! I'm not giving away my favourite source of moorland walks and cream-teas to the French... I only wanted to highlight, in a slightly facetious way, the somewhat tenuous claims of the Cornish Independence lot... what're they called, Mebyon Kernow, is it? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 03:04:05 11/04/04 Thu Tony Blair is the only ever British Labour PM who has had a majority in England. This is the compliment to Scots and Welsh arguments that Conservative governments represent England and not the Celtic parts of the Union: every single non-Conservative government since 1707 has been the result of Celtic votes, not English ones... it could be argued, therefore, that Scots complaints about unrepresentative English conservatism could be countered by arguments about unrepresentative Scots radicalism. Tony knows that his English majority is a freak, and that, after him, Labour will never have a majority in England again. In this context, his devolutionary politics are a paradox: they simultaneously prevent Scots and Welsh socialists from being drowned by English Tory votes and undermine the over-weighting of Scotland and Wales in parliament which has given Labour and the Liberals their only successes in Westminster. Peculiar... [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:51:09 11/03/04 Wed I have grave reservations about the fragmentation of England, and not only because I see it as an EU-sponsored con-trick in order to weaken any united political opposition to the relentless incursion of EU laws into our way of life. You may find it surprising that a Scot is defending English identity, but I do feel that it is under attack. We have seen the devolution settlement thus far in Scotland and Wales, which has resulted in resurgence in our relative “sub-national” identities within the UK. As I have stated before, I always saw this as a deliberate attempt to erode British Identity. The Government did not foresee a consequential rise in English identity as a replacement for it however. Could this be an attempt to quell this? I have another conspiracy theory that is perhaps more plausible, and it involves simple power-greed for the Labour party. Surely it has not escaped the attention of everyone here that all the devolution settlements thus far, and indeed the one being proposed currently in the North-East of England, are all in strong Labour heartlands? We now have guaranteed Labour control for the foreseeable future in Scotland, Wales, and if approved in the current referendum, in the North-East. I suspect that we will wait until Hell has been engulfed by an enormous glacier before we see any form of devolved power in East Anglia, granted by the Labour party. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Curnoack. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 05:05:28 11/04/04 Thu The Bretons aren't French, they're Breton! They're a French colony!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:42:41 11/04/04 Thu By your definition of a colony, you would be hard pressed to find somewhere that isnt a colony. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Curnoack [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:35:44 11/04/04 Thu "By your definition of a colony, you would be hard pressed to find somewhere that isnt a colony." Most places are. Most of so called Russia isn't Russian, but Bashkir, Mordvin etc. Hawaiians are a colonised nation too. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:16:46 11/04/04 Thu Well actualy all europe is a colony. We have no right to be here, the earlier species of human were here first. The entire population of the earth should just gte up and go live around lake victoria. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Curnoack [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:12:20 11/05/04 Fri "Well actualy all europe is a colony. We have no right to be here, the earlier species of human were here first. The entire population of the earth should just gte up and go live around lake victoria." The area round Lake Victoria doesn't lay claim to Europe or try to rule it. That's the difference. However, England did colonise Lake Victoria in the recent past. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |