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Subject: English regionalism


Author:
Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 22:51:09 11/03/04 Wed
In reply to: Nick (UK) 's message, "Divisions" on 13:18:08 11/03/04 Wed

I have grave reservations about the fragmentation of England, and not only because I see it as an EU-sponsored con-trick in order to weaken any united political opposition to the relentless incursion of EU laws into our way of life.

You may find it surprising that a Scot is defending English identity, but I do feel that it is under attack. We have seen the devolution settlement thus far in Scotland and Wales, which has resulted in resurgence in our relative “sub-national” identities within the UK. As I have stated before, I always saw this as a deliberate attempt to erode British Identity. The Government did not foresee a consequential rise in English identity as a replacement for it however. Could this be an attempt to quell this?

I have another conspiracy theory that is perhaps more plausible, and it involves simple power-greed for the Labour party. Surely it has not escaped the attention of everyone here that all the devolution settlements thus far, and indeed the one being proposed currently in the North-East of England, are all in strong Labour heartlands?

We now have guaranteed Labour control for the foreseeable future in Scotland, Wales, and if approved in the current referendum, in the North-East. I suspect that we will wait until Hell has been engulfed by an enormous glacier before we see any form of devolved power in East Anglia, granted by the Labour party.

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[> [> Subject: Breizh/Brittany


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Curnoack.
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Date Posted: 05:05:28 11/04/04 Thu

The Bretons aren't French, they're Breton! They're a French colony!!!

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[> [> [> Subject: colonies


Author:
Owain (UK)
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Date Posted: 08:42:41 11/04/04 Thu

By your definition of a colony, you would be hard pressed to find somewhere that isnt a colony.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Colonies


Author:
Curnoack
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Date Posted: 10:35:44 11/04/04 Thu

"By your definition of a colony, you would be hard pressed to find somewhere that isnt a colony."

Most places are. Most of so called Russia isn't Russian, but Bashkir, Mordvin etc.

Hawaiians are a colonised nation too.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: your a silly fool


Author:
Owain (UK)
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Date Posted: 18:16:46 11/04/04 Thu

Well actualy all europe is a colony. We have no right to be here, the earlier species of human were here first. The entire population of the earth should just gte up and go live around lake victoria.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Lake Victoria vs real colonies


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Curnoack
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Date Posted: 18:12:20 11/05/04 Fri

"Well actualy all europe is a colony. We have no right to be here, the earlier species of human were here first. The entire population of the earth should just gte up and go live around lake victoria."

The area round Lake Victoria doesn't lay claim to Europe or try to rule it. That's the difference.

However, England did colonise Lake Victoria in the recent past.

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