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Date Posted: 18:49:29 05/07/19 Tue
Author: Andrew Cruga
Subject: Tinkering around

Hello David. I live in Waterford, MI and approximately 10 years ago my wife and I drove down to a golf shop in Perrysburg, OH (closest 1irongolf dealer to me) and I bought a set of 1irons 3=lw, driver, 3 wood and 5 wood. It was my luck that the demo set I bought from the adore were the length I needed based on your fitting criteria back then. I had immediate success with them but after a while somehow lost that success. So over the years I've been playing conventional length irons that I always went and got fitted for. Through those years my game has improved year over year and at the age of 48 managed to play my way to become a 5.8 handicap. So getting to the point of my story I pulled the 1irons out of the closet and "customized" them to "my swing". I pulled the steel shafts out of them and put Graffaloy Pro Launch blue stiff shafts. I built them myself. I built the 4 iron through 9 iron to a finished playing length of 37" (1 inch longer than the original steel shaft). PW is 36.5" and GW and SW to 36". You'll be proud to know that I tested every shaft to make sure the cpm's of every shaft was within +/- 3 cpms of each other and also spined every shaft. Using my Mitchell loft and lie machine bent them 2° flat and 2° strong. My game has never been better. Although this goes against your "teachings" I wanted to get your thoughts on the changes. I play a different brand driver but play it at 43.75" long and play yet a different brand 3 wood and 5 wood which I play at 42" and 41" respectively. I guess the questions that I have is the following :

1. With the strengthening of the lofts of the irons they now play similar to the pro-line lofts. The 4 iron through PW each weigh 405 grams (+/- 3 grams). I use 1 layer of tape and a 51 gram grip. They swing weight to a D0. What is the total weight of a 37" pro-line club? What is the swing weight of that same club? The website mentions that the pro-line set uses a state of the art precision casting, grinding, and polishing. How does that differ from the casting, grinding, and polishing of the standard 1irons?

2. I couldn't use the 1iron 3 wood and 5 wood because the heads were far too big AND the faces were far too closed at address.
Do the new low profile fairway woods sit square or even slightly open by chance?

Sorry for the novel but I felt that every detail was important. I'm considering getting a set of the pro-line irons and possibly the fairway woods based on how they sit at address. I CAN NOT look down at a closed club face.

I would love to hear from you via phone 248-931-6011 to discuss my questions.

Thank you very much,

Andrew Cruga

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[> Re: Tinkering around -- David Lake, 17:53:30 05/08/19 Wed

Andrew,

Flattening the lie angle of a golf club requires that you increase it's overall club length. That is why you had to make irons 1" longer. Clubhead lie angle in relationship to club length is crucial for all golf clubs making contact with the ground through impact.

We never install additional wraps under our grips since adding additional tape wraps creates slippage between the wraps when you swing the golf club, and although you may not notice this slippage it definitely affects shot dispersion negatively.

The weight of a 37" Pro-line iron is 454 grams +/-.

We do not swing-weight test our golf clubs. The concept of swing-weighting is one of matching and balance (which is what we do) and not one of adjusting clubs to arbitrary swing-weight designations. Adjusting golf clubs to specific swing-weight designations ruins the precise balance required between club-head and shaft which drastically reduces the level of overall golf club performance. The fact is that you can swing-weight a telephone pole to any of the common golf club swing-weight designations which shows clearly that it has absolutely no merit when arbitrarily applied. What is important, however, is that the swing weight is the same throughout the set. Bear in mind that both the swing-weight and moment-of-inertia (MOI) are identical throughout a set of 1 Irons which is impossible to achieve in a set of conventional irons.

The casting, grinding, and polishing are taken to the highest limits in our Pro-line irons whereas our standard 1 Irons go through roughly the same process as the other major brands on the market.

All of our clubfaces, both irons and woods, are 0º open/closed (perfectly square.) If you feel that they are closed then you are unconsciously closing the clubface at address.

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[> Re: Tinkering around -- william moore (billy), 14:18:45 05/24/19 Fri

how much did it cost you to build your clubs,can you build me a set AND HOW MUCH WOULD CHARGE ME?

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