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Date Posted: 12:02:20 11/15/03 Sat
Author: Bronco66
Subject: re: Building the Program
In reply to: jcardoza 's message, "Re: re: POST MEN ---" on 08:30:14 11/15/03 Sat

thanks JCard (JC just doesn't *quite* sound right)

great observations ....

I liken what has happened at Gonzaga to where SCU was in the Ogden & Awtrey years ...

using Great local talent to make a national splash ... but where GU has been able to capitalize is a continuation beyond that first big team/teams ... actually SCU really went further the first three years but was unable to sustain the momentem ...

the ZAGS now are getting guys who would go to "big time" programs but like perhaps doing it "at home" .... unfortunately Santa Clara has Cal,Stanford in the backyard and USF ... all with tremendous Basketball histories and possibilities ...

SCU for ALL its great academics say they are the BEST academic school for athletes in the Bay Area ... eventhough it may well be the 2nd best in California ...

a tough job ... but not impossible ... SCU has unique attributes that means it's harder to find a young man or woman who is ready to understand why this is a great school with Great programs for serious STUDENT/athletes ...

the big issue is MARKETING ... something SCU as a whole has (at least for the last say 50 years or so) not done very well ... probably only a C on this one ... and until they get that up to a B+ or better I am afraid that will continue

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: BEST academic school in the Bay Area -- Bronco66, 12:06:06 11/15/03 Sat

oops .... that was supposed to be:

SCU for ALL its great academics CAN NOT say they are the BEST academic school for athletes in the Bay Area ...

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Marketing vs. the Product -Chicken or Egg? -- JCard, 15:47:54 11/15/03 Sat

The Nash teams of the early mid- 90's presented a golden opportunity to 'market' the Broncos; they were followed by the promising pre injury BJ teams. It appeared at that time SCU was going be what the Zags have become- a consistently successful program.As I recall, Jones's injury occurred the same year that Lopes actually developed a post up game. Had a healthy Jones played with Lopes,Fast D'oyen & co, the program might have turned the corner. The team still had some great moments,but couldn't recapture 'lightning in the bottle' and consistently capture the bay area's attention. This occurred with Cal and Stanford becoming annual tournament teams, making it harder to compete for the local talent. I guess what I'm blathering about is that the Bay is a tough market and nothing sells in that market like winning. The pieces appear to be there: Leavey is a great venue. The school, while not Cal or Stanford, is a great academic instituion (I would like to see them pass Trinity University in the US News master's College rating tho'). SCU has a respected coach as adept at preparation and X's and O's as anyone. What SCU needs are teams that win consistently, go to the "dance" and get some love from the local media. It's hard to do when you're always waiting for players to develop. One impact player might make a huge difference.
By the way,66, thanks for giving me an opportunity to talk to about this stuff. I hope there are a few more interested Broncos out there.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> re: Bronco BUZZ -- Bronco66, 18:36:11 11/15/03 Sat

JCard ... thanks for the Enthusiasm

When I talk about “marketing” it isn’t just the basketball team ... and you are right about getting some love from the “local” press ... the International Mercury-News doesn’t even bother to have a link on its SPORTS website pages to it’s Santa Clara page .... The “argument” is no one is really interested in Santa Clara sports so we don’t really spend much on reporting on it ...

I must say that Fr. L’s move to bring in a Stanford AD and dedicate some money shows some intent. And there have been improvements in the Men’s Water Polo, Tennis, Cross Country and Baseball teams ... Carol’s aim to have SCU a top 25 nationally ranked program in 5 years may not happen but??? it might happen ... Baseball is poised on the brink of making more BUZZ ...

And today that’s it .... BUZZ ... create some buzz and then capitalize on it ... SCU Basketball has got to get a couple of breaks ... perhaps some kid who wants to go to Steve Nash’s school??? Or play in Gonzaga’s league, or ??? then keep it going ... Leavy should help ... would be nice to see it packed ... heck we only had the SJ Civic and had to drive to it

As to having a place to talk about the Broncos ... your right ... and lets hope there is a pickup of intelligent talk AND BUZZ about da Broncos

Can’t wait for Maui ...


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