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Date Posted: 13:32:56 02/09/05 Wed
Author: THuckaby
Subject: Re: hope on the Horizon
In reply to: Bronco66 's message, "hope on the Horizon" on 09:43:59 02/09/05 Wed

It is a tough line to tread, I will grant that. We sure as heck don't want to have the improprieties that USF once did, and I wouldn't want the mercenary transfers that LMU had during the Kimble/Gathers era. We are a school of student/athletes, and we have a right to be proud of that.

BUT... we also have a very proud history, as you well know, and we aren't living up to that in recent times, at least in terms of wins and losses.

I just do expect more.

And well... Davey has given me nothing to be optomistic about in terms of recruiting. I mean can we PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE get a decent big man? Who's the last one we have? I swear things are so bad I am pining away for Dan Weiss and Matt Wilgenbush. Sure Denison has potential, but this has been a lost year... can some day soon we get a big man with some actual results to go along with potential?

Oh well, I don't need to rant any more. And forgive me also if I don't get too excited about Lloyd Pierce coming on as an assistant. That to me merits a yawn.

But I am quite beaten down by our mediocrity, as you can tell.

Hope does spring eternal. I was excited as everyone else when we beat UNC and Stanford.

But the rest of this year has been such a huge disappointment... the only thing that can save it really is a WCC tourney title. That CAN happen, sure. But I am not holding my breath.

This Friday against SMC? Yawn. I'm not kidding. Oh sure, they remain our rivals and any SMC game is important for bragging rights. But in the scheme of things, what the hell difference does it make, win or lose? All we have to play for now is holding off USD and USF for 4th place, so we can get first round bye. And the games head to head against them are gonna determine that. This Friday? I've already chalked it up as a loss, and we are playing with house money having destroyed them in Moraga, so it really doesn't matter.

BTW, from all accounts Rambis is a great guy... I missed him by one year at school, but we shared a faculty advisor (George Giacomini) and I spent damn near all my time with GG talking about Rambis!

TH

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> SMC --- Yawn -- Bronco66, 16:02:08 02/09/05 Wed

as for the St Mary's game being a yawn ... actually we need the 4th place (and maybe even the third) for a good shot at the title ...

remember 4 plays 1 in the Semis and 3 plays 2

also if we beat them and they take one more loss (and we win out ... yah I know) we have the tie breaker and move into 2nd place with two tourney byes ....

not just a yawn ...

I understand all of what you both are saying ... and can appreciate it ... all I *KNOW* is that the Broncos are my team I am supporting them and we will see where the chips fall this spring ....

the tide is turning at SCU ... and now more than ever the U needs our support and involvement ... good or bad but just not indifferent ...

I appreciate the post and the discussion ... thanks for bringing it and

Go BRONCOS

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: SMC --- Yawn -- THuckaby, 07:18:19 02/10/05 Thu

66:

I am well aware of the ramifications of finishing in 5th, and the loss of a bye that results. But this game remains a YAWN, for several reasons:

a) yes, it helps if we win, but the games at USF and at USD (the two teams we are competing with for 3rd/4th) are gonna settle that no matter what happens against SMC tomorrow.

b) I am SICK AND FREAKIN' TIRED of 3rd and 4th place being a "big" thing for us! Dammit, is this the mediocre level to which we've sank? Sure, if we get the bye, we have a better chance to win the tourney - that's basic logic. But do you really think we have a snowball's chance in hell of pulling that off, bye or no bye? Either way it would require consecutive wins over SMC and Gonzaga. I don't see it.

So sure, I love the Broncos too. I really do. I care about our hoops WAY too much, to be honest.

But if you see a things turning around... good lord, what are you seeing? Where's the light at the end of the tunnel? Think about next years team, without Perkins and Bailey. Can we say mediocre?

It's all fine and dandy to support the school. I do that heart and soul.

But we deserve better than 15 years of mediocrity.

So I am just jazzed to hell about this "big" game against SMC - NOT! Oh sure, if we win that's wonderful, as a sweep of the Gaels is always a good thing. But in the competitive scheme of things, the game is as close to meaningless as we will ever have.

And that just plain sucks.

TH

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