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Date Posted: 08:10:30 01/07/03 Tue
Author: No name
Subject: Re: Health & Longevity
In reply to: 's message, "Health & Longevity" on 15:44:36 12/24/02 Tue




When we got our white male, I heard & read all the
>bad stuff about 'albino' Dobermans. Of course mine
>wasn't albino, but the people doing all the talking
>were referring to him as one. They said that whites
>('albinos') don't live past 4 years of age, most are
>deaf & blind, yada yada....this was in the young
>years, and as the years passed, they changed their
>tune and began saying that, 'no, whitedobermans aren't deaf or blind, they are 'partial albinos', but they all have
>bad temperaments, terrible conformation, less than
>stellar health, and they don't live past 7 or 8 years
>of age.' We found this to also be untrue.
> Our male passed all his health testing-
>OFA hips excellent, thyroid normal, his eyes and heart
>checked out okay, and he's vWD carrier. He will be 9
>years old in February 2003. He is healthy and happy.
>His conformation is good; his angles are slightly open
>in front, but many of the Dobes have less than perfect
>fronts. His brisket is a bit shallow also, he would
>never get a championship even if he was a colored
>Dobe, but his conformation is NOT shabby. He doesn't
>have an inordinate amount of faults or deviations in
>comparison to well bred colored Dobes. His temperament
>is true to the Doberman breed.
> I believe that with a little care, the white
>Doberman conformation can be the same in quality as
>their colored showring counterparts. As for health
>issues, I don't feel that there is a separate white
>Doberman health issue- other than the normal health
>issues that all Dobermans face; hips, heart, CVI,
>cancer, etc. These health problems don't have color
>barriers; they are inherent to the Doberman breed as a
>whole. With today's technology, there's no reason that
>we can't improve Doberman health across the board. The
>same with conformation- poor conformation is not based
>on color. With selective breeding, the whites can be
>put together as good as the dogs in the showring.
> Saying that the White Doberman is partial albino is like saying they're partially pregnant.
>You either have pigment or you don't.
>Our white Dobes have light creme bodies, white
>markings, blue irises, and BLACK pupils. They may be
>pigmentally challenged, but they are NOT colorless;
>which is what the word Albino means- 'no color'. How
>can a white Doberman be partially colorless? You have color, or
>you don't. So the word albino is not an accurate word
>to use when describing a white Doberman, even if the
>'haters' say, 'partial'. The truly educated ones agree
>that the white Doberman is more accurately described
>as a cremello (creme is a color, blue is a color).
> We have been told more lies by those who profess to
>be 'educated', those people who use 'facts' about
>'albinos' to describe a dog that is NOT albino- not
>colorless. Their facts are being twisted to fit their
>agenda IMO. I listened to all the 'facts' from the
>time we brought home our white Doberman. We were for a
>'FACT' lied to by the haters. The few parts that we
>found to be true were:
> 1.) photosensetivity (From networking and comparisson
>of notes from other owners and breeders, we have found
>that photosensitivity does not occur in all white
>Dobermans- only about 50% squint in bright sunlight)
> 2.) fair skin which needs protection from inordinate
>exposure to sun (ordinary exposure such as living the
>life of a dog has NOT proved to be a problem, nor has
>it required special care such as sun screen. By
>inordinate exposure, I am talking about being at the
>beach all day, or at a dogshow with no shade all day-
>This is inordinate exposure, and requires the use of
>sunscreen especially on the dog's nose.)
> I don't consider these two items to be health
>issues, but some people do. And that is the TRUTH from
>what I have observed and learned over the years.

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  • Re: Health & Longevity -- No name, 16:07:27 09/03/05 Sat
  • Re: Health & Longevity -- No name, 20:39:49 01/05/06 Thu

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