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Date Posted: 14:39:03 08/21/06 Mon
Author: jaf
Subject: Re: Ball Tampering
In reply to: Andy 's message, "Ball Tampering" on 07:55:38 08/21/06 Mon

You miss out one key fact of course Andy. In the laws of the game a team is allowed to protest in this way with play added on to the end of play. I don't know the law number but David lloyd read it out and suggested Pakistan know the laws of the game better than the umpires.

Also when Darryll Hair came in to tell them they would lsoe the game unless they reappeared Inzy said to him they were continuing their protest and wanted to see the ball. He did not get the courtesy of a reply.

For what it is worth I don't think the ball was tampered with (do you think it was or was not Andy, you must have an opinion?), as I just can't believe the number of ex players who were at the game who have all reached that conclusion unanimously suggests that anything untoward went on. Remember there was only a ten minute window of opportunity between Cooks dismissal after which the ball was returned to Hair and was apparently ok and the incident. Sky alone had 26 cameras at the ground which saw nothing except Mr Hair constantly watching the Pakistanis polishing the ball.

It is probably easier to reach the conclusion that Mr Hair is racially biased than it is to say there was ball tampering, although one would not dare conclude that Mr Hair is racially biased as there is insufficient circumstantial evidence.

I think that one of the most emotional things that will happen to anyone during their life is to be wrongly accused of something serious or fitted up (I know, I've been there) and when the offence is cheating and you are a Pakistani and honour (or izza) goes right to the route of your society, you are extremely niave if you cannot appreciate the difference between that and questioning an lbw decision.

Following your logic, presumably Pieterson should have been disciplined for a blatant piece of cheating in the last test when he gave a huge edge and did not walk and was not given out by ..... Darryl Hair. surely all cheating should be so summarily punished.

Further there are many reasons why Pakistan could not and should not have protested in an unseemly way on the field of play immediately.

For the record I hope Pakistan and Inzy sue Hair and the ICC for defamation of character. If you can't prove someone has done something and summarily punish them without evidence (and lets stop this pretence that the ball proves anything) and that accusation is serious enough, you are running the risk of such an action.

As for your last point, if it transpires that Inzy is not found guilty of being in charge of a team who have ball tampered on Friday, are you still in favour of Hair having made such a monumental error of judgement (at least no 2 v Asian countries in his career) continuing to stand in any Test matches. Surely in any walk of life an error to this degree would result in dismissal/termination of contract.

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