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Date Posted: 06:20:56 08/22/06 Tue
Author: cant
Subject: Re: Ball Tampering
In reply to: jaf 's message, "Re: Ball Tampering" on 05:33:49 08/22/06 Tue

Damn Pedro you prodded the old dog into life before I could get a chance!

To be honest I think many people are creating a bit of a false argument with this whole "Pakistan were mortally offended" argument. Most of the Pakistani's are cheats, as are most test players in general, simply given their general behaviour on the field of play (not walking, persistant appealing, etc). Anyone who has an ounce of un-baised who has watched any cricket over the last few years knows that for every Gilchrist there is ten KP's, etc. In such a situation players always drag out the predictable "it's the umpires responsibility to make the decision, not mine". Well what happened on Sunday is the direct result of this argument. The umpires suspected cheating and dealt with it. Whether or not they were right to do so is a wholly different argument, but the ICC should be big enough to deal with it. If they suspect that any of the umpires acted in a racist or biased fashion they should be punished accordingly. If there was genuine ball tampering or it is concluded that the umpires had reasonable grounds to suspect so they should not.

What I am 100% sure of is that the Pakistani reaction was petulant and badly thought out. On this point Pedro is quite right. If Inzamam felt his team were unfairly being slurred as cheats then he should have lead them off asap, which at least would have shown his confidence in his team, or gone through the proper channels by protesting un-officially then, officially at tea and making a public statement on behalf of the team at the close of play. To wait until tea suggests it took a quick check with the team that none of them had actually cheated before getting all high and mighty.
On the argument that the worst thing that can happen to someone is to be accussed of something that they did not do I think your maybe getting a little carried away. Everyone gets accussed of doing things they haven't in life but the Pakistani's reaction was childish. Sitting up behind their closed door for a few minutes while the Batsmen, umpires, spectators, radio, tv, viewers, listeners, etc waited on them was pathetic. Everyone waits on us until we are good and ready and our petted lips have been observed and then we can all get on with it.

In regard to Hair I am of the opinion that he is either a very brave, though unquestionably arrogant umpire, or a down right racist. I am not in a position to say and again as his employers the ICC has a responsibilty to sort this matter out, I'd advise before he is handed any other umpiring duties. However, it is clear he is not willing to back down from controversy.

For the ICC to ban Inzamam it would have to be on the grounds of refusing to take his team out in time for play, unless they have specific evidence of him affecting the state of the ball himsel. Charging a captain to fail to control his teams behaviour is all very well and good but if any tampering did indeed take place and it took the umpires until the 56th over to come to that conclusion then how the hell do you prove Inzi himself knew anything about it?

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