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sprit -- andrew, - Monday - 09/ 2/13 - 1:48pm
One last thought........I've been advised to use naturally dried wood instead of kiln dried.
I'm told that the kiln dried is somewhat more brittle than the naturally dried product.
I'm also wondering if anyone knows if the sprit is notched into the samson post or uses a dowel of some sort to attach it to the post
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Naturally Cured - no fasteners required -- Gitano, - Tuesday - 09/ 3/13 - 12:09pm
Yes, Andrew, naturally dried is definitely preferred. Both Randall's and my spris were built from naturally cured tight grained fir - probably both from the same tree. I don't know why one would need fasteners for the lamination. Just use lots of clamps, in both dimensions. The epoxy laminate would be stronger than any fastened sections of wood. Fasteners will create weak links in the system, in my humble opinion.
Best regards,
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Fasteners and fitting to samson posts -- Randall, - Tuesday - 09/ 3/13 - 12:19am
Hey Andrew,
I remember Annie Hill talking about constructing the hull of BADGER out of plywood and epoxy. They would use fasteners to fit the pieces in place and hold all together while the epoxy set, and then when set, they'd remove the fasteners because they weren't necessary and they could then use them somewhere else. They were extremely frugal, she and her husband. BADGER spent time in the southern ocean, so I guess she was strong enough.
Regarding the fit of the sprit to the Samson posts, see my post on replacing Murre's bow sprit. I assume the 40 and the 31 have a similar set up. The sprit is notched to butt up against the posts AND a cap block on the deck. See the drawings in particular.
http://www.marineryachts.com/projects/murre/bowsprit/Bowsprit%20Installation.htm
On Murre there's a 5/16ths through bolt that passes through both the Samson post and the sprit and anchors it in place (when replaced I went to 3/8ths). There was also a long bolt through the sprit and down through the deck that I did not replace. Didn't find it necessary. This bolt had an eye on top that was used for the storm jib, but I moved this eye to the side deck. Much of the rot in the sprit was at this point.
Another neat trick from Bruce on Gitana Vella. Drill out the fitting holes double large and fill with epoxy. Then drill for your fasteners. Good rot protection. Again, see my post.
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sprit -- andrew, - Tuesday - 09/ 3/13 - 9:56pm
Well thanks again for the comments.
I must say that its hard to believe that epoxy alone will be strong enough to keep it all together under all those loads but I guess it works.
Having said that, it is the joins that have caused the problems where water has got in and migrated up and down and began rotting.
But I think that it is the original so i guess that that's pretty good for a 40+ year old boat.
If I can post some photos, I will of the damage.
Then I will chronicle the rebuild.
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