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Subject: Re: Traveling with families & pay rates


Author:
Julie
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Date Posted: 06:22:25 07/29/03 Tue
In reply to: Tonya 's message, "Re: Traveling with families & pay rates" on 14:47:54 07/28/03 Mon

Tonya, I went to the newsletter yesterday and read your article. We agree on most everything relating to travelling with families (I can't think of anything we disagree about). I am glad our misunderstanding is cleared up. I also get paid 24 hours a day, but I'm paid 24 hours a day 365 days a year, regardless of whether I am with the family or away on my own personal time. My original message was certainly not meant to say that nannies should travel for free and just take the vacation as pay... actually it was meant to say if you are being paid as well as it seems the original poster will be for the trip then why expect any more money in addition to her normal pay plus the free travelling expenses? I figured it out and the original poster will be making approximately $1358 for the week overseas plus the free travelling if she is paid as she would be at home. That seems fair to me.



>Julie,
>I clearly understood that you get paid while you are
>on vacation with the families, so please don't be
>offended. What I disagree with is any nanny, live-in
>or not, not getting paid if she is working overnight.
>If you are sharing a room with the children, or are
>on-call, then you are working and should get paid
>accordingly. And, you are lucky to work for a family
>who seems to appreciate and respect you, and not take
>advantage. Many nannies are not so lucky. Part of
>what these boards are all about is for nannies who are
>informed, experienced, and well taken care of, to
>help educate those who are not so informed or
>experienced. You can do that, but you need to make
>sure that you are communicating it well. While you
>said that you get paid, the rest of your e-mail made
>it sound like the nanny who asked about all this
>should just be grateful to get to go on a trip and not
>expect to be paid for her time. I am sure that is not
>what you meant, but it is how your e-mail came across.
> I personally get paid 24 hours a day if I travel with
>my family. It is an inconvenience to me, as it takes
>me out of my daily routine, away from my husband and
>friends, away from my personal time, the gym, etc. It
>often means no computer or telephone communication,
>and long hours with not much to do. So I am paid
>around the clock. I am also available for evening
>babysitting at their request at any time while
>traveling, and help from breakfast to bedtime.
>Please, all of you, go to the main NAN page, click on
>the special April Jobs Issue, and read the travel
>article. It clears it all up for you!
>tonya
>
>
>>If you guys read my message clearly you would have
>>seen that I said I DO get paid for vacations, the
>>exact same as I do at home plus my family pays for my
>>vacation with them entirely. I do not think travelling
>>with my family is hard, what is so hard about getting
>>a free paid vacation? There are no added
>>responsibilities, you are doing the same job you would
>>at home except you get to see a new place, experience
>>new cultures, etc. at the same time. I never said you
>>should go on vacation with the family UNPAID, unless
>>you choose to. I said I don't think you should need to
>>ask for extra money on top of your normal pay, the
>>fact that they are paying for your vacation should be
>>extra enough. If travelling with your families is s
>>hard perhaps you should look into getting a better
>>family to work for.
>>Truth be told I do not consider being a nanny just a
>>job.
>>
>>>I disagree also, in a big way!!@! See below for
>>>article on travel.
>>>Tonya
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have to disagree with what julie wrote. You are a
>>>>live in nanny and unless you are getting up with the
>>>>children at night and are working on weekends as
>>well,
>>>>traveling should be different. First of all, if the
>>>>kids are in your room at night you will be working
>24
>>>>hours a day. That's not healthy for you, you need
>>>>breaks. I understand that not every family can
>afford
>>>>to take a big trip and aside from your expenses pay
>>>>you a salary. If this is the case, then make sure
>you
>>>>talk to your employer (BEFORE YOU GO!)about getting
>>>>time off during the trip. It's not a free trip for
>>>>you. You are working, don't short sell yourself.
>It's
>>>>hard traveling with families.
>>>>>>Hello Fellow Nannies,
>>>>>>I have been asked to travel overseas with 1 of my
>>>>>>families for about a week. Can anyone tell me
>what
>>>a
>>>>>>typical pay scale is for a trip like this?
>>>Typically
>>>>>>I would get $12/ hr for daytime hours and a flat
>>>rate
>>>>>>of $50 per overnight I stay in their local home.
>>>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>>Sam

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Author:
Tonya Grell
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Date Posted: 12:27:09 07/29/03 Tue

If she would be getting paid in addition to her regular pay, then yes, I would agree that it is unfair. I am very curious as to how your pay is figured if you get paid 24/7 for 365 days per year? I have never heard of that. Since contracts and fair pay are a huge issue to me and I try to stay on top of trends in the industry, I would love it if you could share it with me. If you are comfortable doing so, please e-mail me directly at tripletnanny@msn.com. This would be especially helpful as I am doing the session at the NAN conference this year on contract negotiations and would want to share any/all options for nannies who might be in your situation. I personally get paid a flat, hourly rate, with a guaranteed salary as a live-out, with time and a half for anything beyond 40 hours per week. As a live-in, I have a flat, guaranteed weekly salary for up to 50 hours per week, with time and a half comp time for any hours worked beyond 50 hours per week. Thanks for the help!@
Tonya

Tonya, I went to the newsletter yesterday and read
>your article. We agree on most everything relating to
>travelling with families (I can't think of anything we
>disagree about). I am glad our misunderstanding is
>cleared up. I also get paid 24 hours a day, but I'm
>paid 24 hours a day 365 days a year, regardless of
>whether I am with the family or away on my own
>personal time. My original message was certainly not
>meant to say that nannies should travel for free and
>just take the vacation as pay... actually it was meant
>to say if you are being paid as well as it seems the
>original poster will be for the trip then why expect
>any more money in addition to her normal pay plus the
>free travelling expenses? I figured it out and the
>original poster will be making approximately $1358 for
>the week overseas plus the free travelling if she is
>paid as she would be at home. That seems fair to me.
>
>
>
>>Julie,
>>I clearly understood that you get paid while you are
>>on vacation with the families, so please don't be
>>offended. What I disagree with is any nanny, live-in
>>or not, not getting paid if she is working overnight.
>>If you are sharing a room with the children, or are
>>on-call, then you are working and should get paid
>>accordingly. And, you are lucky to work for a family
>>who seems to appreciate and respect you, and not take
>>advantage. Many nannies are not so lucky. Part of
>>what these boards are all about is for nannies who are
>>informed, experienced, and well taken care of, to
>>help educate those who are not so informed or
>>experienced. You can do that, but you need to make
>>sure that you are communicating it well. While you
>>said that you get paid, the rest of your e-mail made
>>it sound like the nanny who asked about all this
>>should just be grateful to get to go on a trip and not
>>expect to be paid for her time. I am sure that is not
>>what you meant, but it is how your e-mail came across.
>> I personally get paid 24 hours a day if I travel with
>>my family. It is an inconvenience to me, as it takes
>>me out of my daily routine, away from my husband and
>>friends, away from my personal time, the gym, etc. It
>>often means no computer or telephone communication,
>>and long hours with not much to do. So I am paid
>>around the clock. I am also available for evening
>>babysitting at their request at any time while
>>traveling, and help from breakfast to bedtime.
>>Please, all of you, go to the main NAN page, click on
>>the special April Jobs Issue, and read the travel
>>article. It clears it all up for you!
>>tonya
>>
>>
>>>If you guys read my message clearly you would have
>>>seen that I said I DO get paid for vacations, the
>>>exact same as I do at home plus my family pays for my
>>>vacation with them entirely. I do not think
>travelling
>>>with my family is hard, what is so hard about getting
>>>a free paid vacation? There are no added
>>>responsibilities, you are doing the same job you
>would
>>>at home except you get to see a new place, experience
>>>new cultures, etc. at the same time. I never said you
>>>should go on vacation with the family UNPAID, unless
>>>you choose to. I said I don't think you should need
>to
>>>ask for extra money on top of your normal pay, the
>>>fact that they are paying for your vacation should be
>>>extra enough. If travelling with your families is s
>>>hard perhaps you should look into getting a better
>>>family to work for.
>>>Truth be told I do not consider being a nanny just a
>>>job.
>>>
>>>>I disagree also, in a big way!!@! See below for
>>>>article on travel.
>>>>Tonya
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have to disagree with what julie wrote. You are a
>>>>>live in nanny and unless you are getting up with
>the
>>>>>children at night and are working on weekends as
>>>well,
>>>>>traveling should be different. First of all, if the
>>>>>kids are in your room at night you will be working
>>24
>>>>>hours a day. That's not healthy for you, you need
>>>>>breaks. I understand that not every family can
>>afford
>>>>>to take a big trip and aside from your expenses pay
>>>>>you a salary. If this is the case, then make sure
>>you
>>>>>talk to your employer (BEFORE YOU GO!)about getting
>>>>>time off during the trip. It's not a free trip for
>>>>>you. You are working, don't short sell yourself.
>>It's
>>>>>hard traveling with families.
>>>>>>>Hello Fellow Nannies,
>>>>>>>I have been asked to travel overseas with 1 of my
>>>>>>>families for about a week. Can anyone tell me
>>what
>>>>a
>>>>>>>typical pay scale is for a trip like this?
>>>>Typically
>>>>>>>I would get $12/ hr for daytime hours and a flat
>>>>rate
>>>>>>>of $50 per overnight I stay in their local home.
>>>>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>>>Sam

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Date Posted: 10:31:23 07/30/03 Wed

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