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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 03:25:07pm
Author: Starboy5
Subject: Re: Thall Shall Not Complain
In reply to: Maverick 's message, "Thall Shall Not Complain" on Tuesday, March 30, 11:35:59am

"but you know what, ill probably still be an idiot and try for more 18+ events because thats the kind of foolish person i am"

*hugs* You did what you could man:)




> hey, they had their chance. it was made clear in the
>beginning that if they didnt support the 18+ side of
>the venue it would be discontinued. for 3 months they
>had ample opportunity to rally their friends and make
>it happen. we have 250+ people on our news letter
>list. many of them are young people who got our
>announcements and knew about the parties, but still
>they never showed up. most of the people who even go
>to goffee are over 21. no one under 21 has the right
>to complain, besides the few Die Hards we had on the
>18+ side (who i personally know). why is this sad news
>to a group of people who were never there to begin
>with? we had 130+ people on the 21+ side at
>Futureshockk Sunday night. compare that to the 2
>(count that: T W O ) on the 18+ side. Dorothy and
>Adam. last month there were 6 people on the 18+ side (
>S I X ).
>
>a young Maverick Cadaverick at the age of 18 was
>driving 3 hours on Tuesday Nights to San Francisco to
>go dance at Roderick's Chamber. sometimes i had school
>the next day. sometimes it would be 3 or 4 months
>until i could go again. it was a very special treat to
>be able to go to a club all dressed up and dance and
>party with cool people i longed to be around...and it
>still is to this day. i would have KILLED for a chance
>to be able to be a part of something like that when i
>was 18 in Fresno. but there was NOTHING. i drove 4
>hours to Coven 13 in LA back in 1998 because there was
>no scene here at the time. the Shroud played
>sometimes, but there wasnt a dance club. all the clubs
>in Fresno at the time were 21+. and i was too young
>when the Light House was around. all i had was
>dressing spooky and hanging out at Java Cafe in the
>Tower. honestly i dont know what i would have done had
>there been a goth community in Fresno at hand for me
>to indulge in when i was under 21. so instead i
>created my own spooky world for my lonesome and went
>to LA and SF when i could. how dare anyone in Fresno
>under 21 complain about there being nothing to do,
>what we have created for them in the here and now isnt
>something to do??? there was no fresnogoth.com hosting
>Goffee nights and special events. even just hanging
>out at a cafe with neat goth people would have been a
>special treat for me at 18, but i was by my self in
>the cemetery smoking cigars atop tombstones. anyone
>with a bad attitude over this 18+ bull shit must
>realize that i and everyone else paid our dues and had
>to wait too. but holy hell, at least you have this
>website and other social events to take part in. which
>is waaaaay more than i had when i was under 21 in
>Fresno. which wasnt that long ago, im only 25. and i
>realize that not everyone under 21 can make it out to
>all the events, but you have no right to complain.
>
>so this morning i check my inbox. 3 Emails regarding
>the no mas 18+ at Futureshockk. one from Astrid that
>is sad for the kiddies. one from a nice young lady who
>is bummed but ready as all hell for her 21st B-Day in
>September and the following Email from some dude with
>a bad attitude:
>
>" "Remove" if there are no more 18+ events, then there
>is not point of me being on the list."
>
>HAHAHA. who is this guy? never met him at Goffee,
>cause he WASNT THERE. Goffee is ALL ages by the way.
>he wasnt at the Pick-a-Nick last summer. and he sure
>as hell wasnt at Futureshockk on Sunday night! so why
>complain? but now I'M the bad guy cause no one 18+
>came out to support it besides a few die hards. I'M
>the big bad wolf, even there were no piggies in the
>house that got blown down. boo fucking hoo.
>
>little do any of them know how fucking hard i fought
>to provide 18+ events. Tokyo Tei, Barbie Q, Goffee,
>the Ren Faire booth... and all the long restless hours
>i spent for people under 21. my friends told me i was
>wasting my time but i still insisted on providing 18+
>events. now i feel fucking stupid. but you know what,
>ill probably still be an idiot and try for more 18+
>events because thats the kind of foolish person i am.
>for now im out of steam and the 18+ people can sit on
>it. at least theres goffee, but its probably not good
>enough for them.
>
>-Maverick
>
>
>
>
>
>>That really sucks for the under 21s. I thought that
>>the venue was going pretty strong but was it the
>>second or third one that they had?
>>I guess they cant complain anymore since they had
>>their chance.Sucks for those under 21 that DID go
>>and support it : (

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  • Re: Thall Shall Not Complain -- Helga, Tuesday, March 30, 04:17:37pm
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