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Author: Andy |
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Date Posted: 20:22:37 10/19/05 Wed In reply to: Matt 's message, "Re: Derby Bus Station" on 22:22:05 03/04/04 Thu I still say the original Derby Bus Station should be retained. Apart from it's architectural significance as an art-deco structure, there is nothing wrong with the current design. I personally have driven many vehicles, both large and small, through the bus station over the years without ever encountering any kind of problems. True, some buses have hit the canopies with their back ends when swinging out. But this is nothing more than carelessness on the part of some of the less able drivers (of whom there seem to be more and more!) As has been pointed out already, nose-in-bays make for longer dwell times at the stops, increase the risk of accidents when reversing, and will not accomodate so many vehicles per hour. The current design of bus station has been working well in the city since the 1930s. And I would suggest that would still be the case had some big developer not come along and offered the council a heap of money for the site! All they will be interested in are the rtail units etc they can bulid above it. Leaving the new bus station as a cheap, dark, draughty basement! This surely is council corruption at it's very worst. One wonders who is getting the brown envelopes stuffed full of cash to allow the current plans to take place? Even when the new bus station is constructed, because the development will be private you can bet your bottom dollar operators will be charged every time one of their vehicles uses it. And as with other places up and down the country, this means that many operators will opt to terminate their buses in the over crowded streets instead. This in turn will mean a walk for passengers through all weathers from one service terminating in the bus station to their connecting service which could be on the other side of the city! Leaving Derby without any coherent point of interchange. If the bus station has worked for over 60 years, why now spend a fortune mending something that ain't broken!!!! Andy. >I dont have a problem with public facilities being >funded by private companies, but I think if the bus >station is to be replaced a the bus station part of >the plan should be the main emphasis - not the retail >outlets etc. Also a bus station for the future should >be built. > >Im not sure how many bays the planned bus station has >but the current one has over 20 and are used by up to >6 or 7 buses per hour. This is where the problem with >bay bus stops arises. Yes could be viewed and >probably are safer, but with all these buses use it >what happens if one is late. If that happens now the >other bus can stop behind and pick up passengers, but >in a bay style station it would have to wait for the >other to finish loading, whilst probably blocking >other buses in at the same time. I cant see how it >would be practical on a large scale, but maybe im >wrong. Maybe it could work if planned right. As you >say it would need to be bigger. > > > > > > >>Is it so wrong that other tenants are used as a way of >>financing a public facility like a bus station? >> >>We can't live in the past - if we could, which year(s) >>would we choose? >> >>Before we go any further, I have grave disquiets about >>the plans for the new station - it's not big enough, >>there's little thought for expansion. >> >>Reversing bays - provided they are properly gated have >>a lot of advantages over the railway style of the >>current layout. >> >>People aren't encouraged to move about in the paths of >>buses, for example and it's easier to make them >>draught-proof. >> >> >> >> >>>I think/hope everyone agrees that the bus station >>>needs to be improved. >>> >>>So what should replace it? A new bus station you >>>might say. But what is proposed (not quite sure >>>exactly what current plans are) is a massive multi >>>storey commercial development on the bus station >site, >>>which will include a bus station. >>> >>>There are many pros and cons with this idea when you >>>think about it i suppose. Benefits would be that it >>>would be warm/dry and well lit. There would also >>>probably be security provided by the people who own >>>the property. Cons are that expansion would be >>>difficult as it is a built in feature. Surely if >>>anything a bigger station is needed. I fail to see >>>how a reverse out bay style station would work with >>>such a large volume of buses. maybe im wrong. >>> >>>I think the main Con - points are to do with the site >>>itself. Public land being used to build it, over - >>>shadowing of the river gardens, pollution and >>>congestion. Maybe it should be built somewhere else? >> >>> >>>What are peoples thoughts/opinions? >>> >>> >>>> >>>>>Just to get things started a bit. What do you >think >>>>>about Derby bus Station? And the plans to demolish >>>>it? >>>>> >>>>>Matt >>>> >>>>Isn't it about time it went? >>>> >>>>Preferably to Crich. >>>> >>>>I suppose there could be a case for retaining the >>>>central Rotunda, but hey, it's 2004 and a cold, >>>>draughty, dirty open staion has no place in a modern >>>>transport system. >>>> >>>>The past is all very well,but I want to live in the >>>>future, that's where we're all going isn't it? >>>>Amber [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |