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Subject: Find a new stance

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Anonymous

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Date Posted: 10:08:03 04/03/02 Wed

Although there are a lot of stories and personal anecdotes to back up your website's criticism of Greeks as "buying their friends" and being "frat brats", if you really want to make this effective, I would suggest finding a new line of criticism. There are many things wrong with fraternities and if you're going to put in the effort (however misguided and counterproductive), you might as well find some things that you can support with evidence other than stories. Talking to one girl out of the tens of thousands that are in sororities does not provide substantial support for the claim that members of sororities (or all Greeks for that matter) simply pay to party.

On the other hand, finding out the GPA's of Greeks nationally or at individual campuses and comparing it to that of non-Greeks would be a clear example that Greeks are not as smart as everyone else (if that's what the data showed, of course). Every campus with a Greek system probably has a website for that, or at least individual chapters do, and I'm sure with minimal effort you could find these statistics.

Or, find examples of court cases involving fraternities or sororities and explain how Greeks have problems with the law. The website www.findlaw.com has the capability to search through federal and state court cases by any search word (of course, you may have to include this with a comparison to non-Greek students and hopefully it would show that Greeks are more often in trouble with the law).

I'm sure you could think of more things to use to continue to poke fun at the Greeks, but these are just a couple suggestions to help you because like I said earlier, if you're going to spend your time doing this, at least have the decency to make it worth someone's time to read.

Oh, one more thing, change the spelling of your name because it makes you look ignorant spelling "sucks" wrong when that's the whole basis of your site.

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[> Subject: Agreed!

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Anonymous
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Date Posted: 10:57:56 04/03/02 Wed

I agree with Anonymous. Personal experiences and stories do not make valid points. Perhaps you could publish your the contents of your super-secret diary on how you don't like the fraternity or sorority members at your school, because that would be about as valid as this website currently is.

Allow me to make the point that an adherent of a belief system or a member of an organization cannot be used to write off the entire abstract system. For example, should someone who hates fraternities gun down a house full of fraternity members, it doesn't make your stance against them any less valid. Using the logic that you've employed on this website, however- extrapolating two "stories"- it would make you crazed, gun-toting maniacs.

If you do want to legitimately criticize fraternities- there's a large realm of opportunity for this- another way besides those that the other poster mentioned would be to look at the professed values of the organizations' national governing bodies, and see if the local chapters are true to that. National fraternities are for the most part strict about standards, but the local chapters are adept at lying to them and using their local alumni to cover up scandals- if you happen to squeal out chapter that aren't living up to what they are supposed to be (which it sounds like all the houses you've come in contact with), write their nationals with documented evidence. They'll either 1) run an alumni supervisory council and throw out most of the members, or 2) completely close down the chapter and try again in a few years with better people.

There are a lot of good fraternities and sororities out there that try and make better people, but they are outnumbered greatly by the poor ones that make drunks and Neanderthals, like the guy you interacted with. Rather than wasting your server space on overdone complaints, you could dedicate it to letting people know how to eradicate the bad ones and actually make some good point. Right now this website is farce.

And change your logo! You're embarassing yourselves.

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Author: Anonymous [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:02:39 04/03/02 Wed I meant to say this website is "a" farce, not "this website is farce." [ Post a Reply to This Message ]