Berge's pedigree is 2 relegations from the premier league, whilst Lukic's is 150 games at a mid table serie A side including european campaigns. He's clearly got the stronger pedigree. As for your stats, optically, we're clearly worse this season when Lukic is off the field. Our results are worse, as well. Too small a sample size? Quite possibly. But it's the only sample size we've got at present -- SW6.doc

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Date Posted: Monday, October 14, 06:03:05pm
Author: Same Old Story
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Subject: Berge's pedigree is 2 relegations from the premier league, whilst Lukic's is 150 games at a mid table serie A side including european campaigns. He's clearly got the stronger pedigree. As for your stats, optically, we're clearly worse this season when Lukic is off the field. Our results are worse, as well. Too small a sample size? Quite possibly. But it's the only sample size we've got at present
In reply to: eganonoa 's message, "I use those stats because I think they best show who is good "under the press, on the ball & setting tempo", i.e. who can control the ball well, make both safe sideways & incisive forward passes, carry the ball when there is no one to pass to, & is hard to tackle or push off the ball. Across all stats relevant to that they are very close on both %age & per/90 bases (with Berge typically having a very slight edge). I think that's no accident. 2 players per position being the clear mantra." on Monday, October 14, 05:35:28pm

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Not sure what the "two relegations" thing is about, especially if we compare quality at mid-table Serie A vs lower-table Prem. But on core "pedigree metrics": Berge 22 European games, inc 6 Champions League when named in a "best of" champions league team; Lukic 7 European, 1 Champions League. Lukic 52 appearances for 35th ranked national team at age 28, Verge 50 for 47th ranked team at age 26. These two are so similar its hilarious to try to nitpick between them, which is my point. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, October 14, 11:56:45pm (NoHost/106.255.112.8)
- He's been relegated with both Sheff Utd and Burnley. Its not difficult to understand. Even for you. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, October 15, 09:30:45am (NoHost/90.241.124.131)

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