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Date Posted: 16:05:19 12/22/03 Mon
Author: Joe
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Subject: Re: �s��Q�R Sax
In reply to: beginner 's message, "�s��Q�R Sax" on 00:32:29 12/22/03 Mon

If your budget is around $5000-HKD, Jupiter is a good choice for a beginner. Don't waste money on some China made product (Toyama).

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[> Re: �s��Q�R Sax -- mark, 11:37:21 12/23/03 Tue [1] (cm61-10-7-173.hkcable.com.hk/61.10.7.173)

Hi Joe,

This a common enough topic.

If you go to the web there are many such references. The common theme is don't waste money on cheap Chinese or Indian instruments. However there are some problems with this theme - there are so many Chinese instrument makers......some cheap, some quite expensive, some real bad but also some quite good! And we know China changed so much recent years. So it is not categorical (Don't waste money on some China made product), and it cannot be, right?

I also did some research before I jump....., Hmmmm......I mean before I buy a toyama. Here is a review if you are interested:

http://www.jinyinusa.com/article2.htm

I think it is a fair review.

By the way, I don't just have a toyama alto. I have a toyama alto and and a toyama tenor and a toyama flute (I don't have a toyama bass like some member here does). The label on the horns said that they were made in Vietnam and Indonesia. I admit that there are minor problems with my toyamas - the leather bump paddings somethimes are displaced, a tone hole cover pad even fell off (to my horror) such that I have to take out the tune hole cover and glue the pad back on. Luckily this is not my first experience with paddings falling off. I've seen that before. Some how I consider all these minor problems and easily rectified. And unlike other Chinese instruments the toyamas has a warrantee period. So it is quite safe.

I also have various wind/other instruments, many/mostly yamaha, one by Jupiter and many others by other makers. In fact, quite a number of them. They are good no doubt (otherwise I won't be buying so many of them). But just good. And yamaha some times disappoints/irritates when some of its parts comes in loose and it buzz and rattle when you sound a low note. You then need to spend a lot of time to rectify the buzz/rattle.

Have you had a chance to really play a toyama, any toyama? What are your findings? Just curious to know.

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