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Date Posted: Fri, Sep 14, 04:42:19pm CST
Author: Archie
Author Host/IP: tina0-87.greenhills.net / 216.146.244.87
Subject: Re: Placement of white standard
In reply to: Tommy Prince 's message, "Re: Placement of white standard" on Thu, Sep 13, 08:08:32pm CST

>>>>>>The standard for where white can appear on our
>dogs
>>>>>>will be as follows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>White can only appear on the feet, chest,
>>underneath
>>>>>>the body and neck of ALCBA dogs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The vote was quite clear with 62% voting for this
>>>>>>change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Less than 1% of those filling out surveys wanted
>to
>>>>>>have more areas allowable. 27% voted to also
>>include
>>>>>>the nose and tip of tail. Randy do you are Jed.
>>>have
>>>>>eny dog's that go back to Jug? I would think you
>>>>>should be more worried about the walker in him than
>>>>>where the white is on some leopards. because you or
>>>so
>>>>>worried about leopards starting to look like a
>>hound.
>>>>>Jug was a coondog. I drawed out with him 3 times
>and
>>>>>he did a good job but E-Beau may be colored up like
>>a
>>>>>walker. and i mite add he won all three times. so
>we
>>>>>are go on abilty not looks to get better dog's.
>>>>
>>>>Archie,
>>>>I think you know quite well that Jed and I both
>have
>>>>a dog going back to Jug. We are both getting ready
>to
>>>>test these dogs on big game. They are now about 8
>>>>months old and will be hunted out real soon.
>>>>I have seen numerous really nice Clark dogs that
>were
>>>>good and reliable on small game.
>>>>This pup I now have here is the houdiest Leopard I
>>>>have ever owned, but he does meet the standards. He
>>>>does not have a white hair on him. Everybody who
>>comes
>>>>here notices that he does not look much like the
>rest
>>>>of my dogs. Whether I keep him here or ever use him
>>is
>>>>a big question. I just want to see if he will make a
>>>>bear dog. I am going to test him and see for myself.
>>I
>>>>intend to try a few dogs from other strains in the
>>>>near future.
>>>>I have wondered for a long time if these Clark-bred
>>>>dogs were gritty enough for bear. The ones I have
>>seen
>>>>were definitely track drivers and had many of the
>>>>qualities I look for in a dog. I am not happy about
>>>>the extra hound and other breeds that were bred into
>>>>them.
>>>>I know that the "Jug" registration was a uniquely
>>>>different situation, but Jed and I had absolutely
>>>>nothing to do with it. We inherited him along with
>>>>others that have caused some Leopard people to
>>wonder.
>>>>Please remember that the association voted
>>unanimously
>>>>to register Jug, throwing out his falsified papers.
>>>>The attempt to register him honestly was
>applaudable.
>>>>Jed and I have not thrown out any dogs, but all dogs
>>>>applying for permanent registration will have to
>meet
>>>>standards, no matter who they belong to. All ALCBA
>>>>permanently registered dogs are just that
>permanently
>>>>registered, but their offspring will have to meet
>the
>>>>standards.
>>>>Randy
>>>Randy I guess then it really dont matter to you if
>>>your dogs have walker blood running through their
>>>veins as long as they dont look like walkers.While
>>>were on the sbject of standards do you got farm
>>>shepard blood also. Is the long hair excepted as long
>>>as there is no white on there backs.
>>Let me spesify a little better when i say long hair I
>>am not talking a thick coat I am talking about long
>>wavy curly hair I have seen some worse than my Mothers
>>border collies.atleast e-beau is pure leopard cur and
>>i would recomend a pup out of him and he has produced
>>a lot of nice leopards I for one dont care what he
>>looks like.there is a leopard in Carlyle IL that is
>>out of e-beau that can flat fly on a track that most
>>dogs leopard or hound that cant even smell it.And he
>>is also a hard tree dog He will stay treed alnight if
>>that is what it takes for you to get to him
>
>In my opinion, Mr. Oller is correct in what he is
>trying to do. The breed will benefit from it.
he is trying to get rid of the white in our dogs but he has dog out of JUG that is part walker but this is OK? JUG was a coondog but lets face the facts he is not pure leopard. what makes it even more bad is most people that have them think they have a pure leopard. I know their a lot of leopards have hound in them but for the most it was way back in their breeding and very little leff in their blood.

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