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Subject: Double Message Author: Ivy Inquisitior (Should ILT Continue?) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 01:29:07 03/16/26 Mon When the bracket reveal show placed Penn in the tournament I was surprised. First of all congratulations to The Quakers. They beat the two best Ivy teams when it mattered most. Yesterday I thought to my self "If The Quakers win,they'll receive a 16 seed. So,The 14 seed is generous. It would've been better for the League if Yale won instead for two reasons One ,they're the best team and two HYP have pulled off some thrilling tourney upsets over the past 12 years. I personally enjoy The Ivy Madness concept. But it has costed The Ivy's best team a NCAA Tournament bid three times. Should this tournament continue? Even with my suggestion of the the top receing a double bye won't stop the outcome. The league is sending a double messenge: Regular season champion is the official champion, but the tournament winner gets the NCAA bid. In My opinion, Yale and all mid and low majors should abstain from The NIT due to their new debased criteria. I counted six regular season "champions" who didn't receive a 2026 NIT bid. Two years ago, The NIT would have never allowed this to occur . [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: [GG’s response goes here] NM Author: joiseyfan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:26:24 03/16/26 Mon NM

[> Subject: Re: Double Message Author: joiseyfan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:42:59 03/16/26 Mon When the Ivies became the only league without a tourney, this is exactly the view they were taking. BUT there was incessant bitching about not getting postseason exposure (as if anybody watches the Patriot tournament), and the drumbeat of “why are we the only ones?” got tiring, AND the lax tournament was a success — another topic — so the ILT was born, with the predictable results you enumerate. On the women’s side, ironically, a protracted 10-year recruiting and scheduling campaign by Banghart, Berube and their disciples has created the opening for multiple bids when all the dice fall correctly, but expecting them is not rational, especially when one team sweeps. All signs, especially with NIL, are that this opportunity won’t occur on the men’s side any time soon. The current excuse is that cutting the ILT would harm recruiting. Sure.

[> [> Subject: Re: Double Message Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:02:26 03/16/26 Mon I'm against the ILT, for all the usual reasons, and always have been. It is illogical to conduct a 14-game double round robin -- a meaningful sample size to determine the best and supposedly most deserving team -- only to have the actual selection be based upon two games, the semi and final, where the omnipresent randomness of officiating and simple variance in shooting will often carry the day. Having said that, I also think that, if the players and the coaches want something, it's their prerogative to get it. They're smart enough to know that they run a 14-game gauntlet just for the chance to roll the dice in a two-game random number generator. Well, if they want it, they should get it. The fact that the players and coaches in other sports also want it is compelling. Cutting the ILT would harm recruiting? Puh-lease.

[> [> Subject: The PL tournament got exposure this year Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:32:20 03/16/26 Mon Having two games decided on half court shots at the buzzer will do that. :)

[> Subject: Re: Double Message Author: sparman [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:14:24 03/16/26 Mon Give up the ILT and be forced to forego filling up those 2500 (or 2100 in Hanover) seat arenas? Perish the thought.

[> [> Subject: Newman and Leede Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:28:20 03/16/26 Mon I have driven to Memorial Field many times for football games. I've been to every football stadium and basketball arena in the League with two exceptions: Newman and Leede. Just can't do it, especially now with ESPN+. Though I will tune into next year's ILT specifically hoping to enjoy Dave Faucher's New England accent. When the game action reaches a crescendo and Faucher's voice rises an octave, half the audience will have no idea what he is saying.

[> Subject: Re: Double Message Author: Roar EE [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:05:51 03/16/26 Mon I am for the ILT for the following reasons: (1) If you can't win the Ivy, then you will be crushed in the NCAAs which will make the league look bad. We already have to go up against the stereotype of being a soft league. (2) Having the ILT gives possible more opportunities for other teams to make it to the big dance like the women did last year. If Columbia was the Regular season Ivy champ and loses to Princeton in the ILT, I could see both Columbia possibly squeezing into one of the final spots. If it didnt lose to Cornell+Penn, then it would've been a lock for the Big Dance.

[> [> Subject: It’s not the 1980s anymore Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:25:48 03/19/26 Thu Even the fourth place Ivy team can reasonably hang with the big boys.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: It’s not the 1980s anymore Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:39:58 03/19/26 Thu See what Siena is doing to Duke now? Go ahead and make your case why the fourth place Ivy team that got hot in the ILT can’t do the same thing…