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Subject: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: DeepBlue [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 12:46:42 03/16/26 Mon It doesn't appear that the league has announced the basketball tournament venues for 2028 and beyond yet. If it were up to me, I'd have it at a neutral site in NYC every year (e.g., Fordham, CCNY, NYU). My second choice would be the following: in 2028, it should be at the gym of the 2027 regular season women's league champion, in 2029 at the gym of the 2028 regular season men's league champion, and alternate in the same manner going forward. This would have the benefit of making it marginally more likely that for either the men or women, depending on the year, one of the best teams would have home court advantage. And, selfishly, at least for now it would make it less likely that the venue would be outside the tristate area plus Boston. Thoughts? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: Fear the Quaker [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:21:53 03/16/26 Mon The home court advantage would assure that the 3-point shooter would be fouled, so that he could not tie the game. :)

[> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: M3 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:29:22 03/16/26 Mon Winning the regular season title in IL basketball doesn't mean that much To get a NCAA bid you have simply qualified for a 2 game single elimination tournament DeepBlue has made an excellent suggestion

[> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: sparman [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:19:30 03/16/26 Mon Rewarding a current team based on the prior year's performance does not do it for me. I thought the goal of granting home court is to reward a specific team for its performance, not to reward "one of the best teams". If Princeton were awarded a home court based in this approach while Penn had a higher finish, I doubt Penn fans would take solace because PU had been "one of the best" with Penn. I can only imagine the complaints of unfairness if a team finshed 1st in one year, followed by 4th in the next but yet has home advantage to go to the NCAAs. Isn't this the same issue raised by arbitrarily rotating the tournament site that lead to so many complaints about the unfairness? I don't see what is gained by using a prior year's performance. However, if a home court approach is adopted for conference winners, I would be OK with the idea of rotating between women's and men's conference winners, and not just because certain teams would likely have an advantage.

[> [> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: DeepBlue [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:35:29 03/16/26 Mon I feel like siting it based on the prior year’s performance is the least-bad option because the too-small audience would only be reduced further if the tournament venue were only announced a week ahead of time. I had more than a year to make travel arrangements and reconcile myself to shlepping up to Ithaca.

[> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: Fear the Quaker [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:33:04 03/16/26 Mon At this time, being the number 1 seed gives you a chance to play the 4 seed and Yale beat Cornell. On a neutral court, Yale was supposed to defeat Penn because they had better record and had beaten Penn twice. Penn had no advantage. I am from the era when winning the regular season was all that mattered. Penn and Princeton dominated that format, and it was changed. Now, we have a tournament, and Penn has now won twice (once on its home court and I freely admit that point.). Yale has won four and Princeton one. Yale has done well within the current system. COVID ruined 2 seasons. I doubt you will satisfy everybody's idea of fair, and I doubt the league will pay for a neutral court facility. Cornell's facility was great and Ithaca itself had plenty of nice restaurants. My wife and I had a marvelous visit. We would also love to visit the other Ivy venues.

[> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: Tiger81 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:40:00 03/16/26 Mon Princeton has won the ILT twice: the inaugural tournament at the Palestra in 2017 and in 2023 at Jadwin, the magical year that they then advanced to the Sweet Sixteen.

[> [> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: Fear the Quaker [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:38:32 03/16/26 Mon My mistake. Thank you for the correction.

[> Subject: Men's ILT Championships by Seed Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:41:01 03/16/26 Mon If you want to win the men's Ivy League tournament championship, it helps if: (a) You are not the #1 seed. (b) You are the #2 seed. (c) You do not have to play on the home court of your opponent. Men's ILT Championships by Seed --------------------------------- #1 seed. . . . 2 titles #2 seed. . . . 5 #3 seed. . . . 1 #4 seed. . . . 0 For the women's ILT championship, on the other hand, it helps if: (a) You are the #1 seed. (b) You are Princeton.

[> [> Subject: Re: Men's ILT Championships by Seed Author: TCW (persistent) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:23:30 03/17/26 Tue Last year, the Harvard Women's BB Team won the ILT. They were a third seed.

[> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: Ivy Fan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:22:17 03/17/26 Tue The league needs to do three things: 1. allow all 8 teams in the postseason tourney 2. separate the men's & women's tournaments 3. follow the America East model where the highest seeds host all the way through the championship. They didn't pack the house at Newman Arena. Enough with the rotation or idea of a neutral court. Let the higher seeds host from the quarterfinals through the championship. THAT is the reward for finishing higher in the standings.

[> [> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: DeepBlue [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:02:11 03/18/26 Wed This solution assumes that there's a dedicated fanbase that would (potentially) travel to see their team play over the course of a week to places that weren't decided until relatively close to the tournament - I think you might end up with embarrassingly small crowds. Maybe include all eight teams but make the bottom four play-in against each other for a chance to face the top four, and have it over three days in one predetermined place?

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:47:38 03/18/26 Wed The real solution: Package the finals for both m/w tourneys with another "midmajor" conference (Patriot/MAAC/Colonial/AmEast) for a championship quadrupleheader at a major venue in the northeast that doesn't have a college tourney (Comcast/Barclays/TD Garden) and have the higher seed host in all preliminary rounds. You will get ESPN happy with knowing where to park the truck a year ahead of time. You can do advance ticket sales and draw from up to eight fan bases to fill more seats/sell more overall tix. You can split the costs with another conference, while only being on the hook for one day of arena rental. And you can give the higher seed a "home court" advantage in the preliminary rounds. It actually makes too much sense for the league to consider.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: voy vey [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:03:52 03/19/26 Thu If only we could schedule a double round-robin tournament where every team plays every other team, once at home, once away, with the team achieving the best record being declared the champion. That would make the most sense by far. Oh....wait....

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: sparman [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:59:07 03/19/26 Thu Are you some kind of seditious provacateur?

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: joiseyfan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:58:13 03/19/26 Thu Now, now, we all know vv is a cute little suboptimal provocateur….

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:10:13 03/19/26 Thu We've been through this over the years. Not having a post-season tournament is great if you like empty arenas and dispirited fan bases by the middle of the season. Those of us who realize that college sports IS entertainment, not just a fitness activity for the participants, welcome the fact that NCAA Division I sports are intended to be bread and circus. Otherwise why even participate in the main tournament, anyway? You know the Ivies have no shot to win, so the fair thing would be to let the 8th best power conference teams take the places of all the "mid" "majors" If you only care about "deserving" participants, do you really think that the NEC and MEAC champs are "deserving" of the right to play for the NCAA Division 1 championship? Beating up on Stonehill and Sacred Heart isn't exactly the same as taking on UNC and Duke like Georgia Tech has to...

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: Ivy Fan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:51:23 03/20/26 Fri You are missing the point. If you hold the games on the home floor of the higher seeds, their fans (and students) will pack the gym. Who cares if the opposing teams fans don't want to travel? This is how you reward the teams that played well in the regular season by giving the higher seeds home court advantage.

[> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: Tiger81 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:38:32 03/19/26 Thu I have always hated the ILT for the same reasons many have previously stated. When a team comes out on top of the 14-game grind and then has to watch another Ivy who had a big ILT weekend take part in the lifetime experience of the Big Dance … ugh. And the advent of the NIL era does not bode well for the possibility of a multi-bid season. The second best scenario IMHO would be the second and third place teams having a play-in game and then playing for the ILT title against the top seed on its home court. I believe in the past that the tie-breaker playoffs have been sellouts and highly-charged events. That would be “fairest” to me but would lack the Ivy Madness drama and hype of having the 4 top men’s and women’s teams competing at one venue in a tournament setting. The third best scenario is probably what we currently have, I just can’t see the Ivies holding the ILT at a neutral site.

[> [> Subject: Re: Future Ivy Madness venues Author: Handsome Dan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 05:00:00 03/20/26 Fri Agree your option #1 is the best. If we are going to have a tournament, your option #2 is the way it should be. The also-rans -- 2-3, 2-5, or 2-7 -- should compete amongst themselves for the right to play #1 at #1's home court.