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Subject: Still More Fairness Issues Author: Greg [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 21:05:26 03/20/24 Wed In reply to: RedWin 's message, "Re: More Questions About Fairness" on 20:27:36 03/20/24 Wed RedWin, I think there are four separate issues in the initial post by Green Review and your response: (a) GR decries the lack of ethnic diversity on the Dartmouth and Harvard ski teams. My initial response titled "Fairness" was addressed mostly to him and tangentially to your response. (b) You don't like the idea of parents spending $75,000 per year and think the parents have their priorities wrong. I certainly would not disagree with that! On the other hand, if that's what they want to spend their hard-earned money on, who are we to criticize them? Some people buy liquor or lottery tickets. Others send their non-athletic children to sports academies for $75,000 a year. At least the parents get their children out of the house. Maybe that's the objective here, as it traditionally was for many British parents sending their progeny to boarding school My point is that people should be allowed to waste their money on whatever they choose. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. As sparman pointed out, the chances that IMG can turn a kid who couldn't start for his local high school team into a college recruit is low. And if IMG can in fact do that, they should be charging a lot more than $75 large for tuition. (c) Your post immediately above is particularly confusing. "Sports academies purposely excluding young athletes whether they are white or minority"? What? Who's doing what? (d) Kids dropping out of sports because they're too professionalized? I agree with you that this is a shame. Sports should encourage participation for all the life lessons sports provide. But regrettably, that ship has long sailed. And why is that? Because of all the gifted athletes who marry other gifted athletes and produce offspring who are gifted athletes. As I said above, is this fair? What problems in our society should we attempt to fix or ameliorate, and what problems are only problems because we convince ourselves that they are problems? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: More Questions About Fairness Author: RedWin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:12:53 03/20/24 Wed Greg........I am not an expert on this stuff. I was just a lowly walk-on O-lineman at Cornell. However, I do think the Dartmouth and Harvard Ski Teams could work a little harder to attract and retain student-athletes of color into their programs. I know the late Buddy Teevens at Dartmouth wouldn't have it any other way. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: More Questions About Fairness Author: Greg [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:34:34 03/20/24 Wed Should Division I basketball teams be encouraged to recruit more Asian players? In our conference, we have three superstars and one budding possible superstar, but statistically, they are crazy outliers. Asian athletes, relative to their proportion of the overall population, essentially do not exist on Division I rosters. Do you support Division I basketball teams having more Asian players? Don't you see what a slippery slope this is? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]