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Subject: Just an update — legacies


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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 10:44:09 04/09/24 Tue
In reply to: observer 's message, "Re: Will Dartmouth first year player get poached?" on 09:21:13 04/09/24 Tue

If you missed it, Princeton has very bluntly and very publicly reconfirmed its policy on legacies, which will be unchanged as other tweaks are made in admissions.

It should be emphasized the trustees, whose oversight of admissions is generally strong anyway, went to the trouble of a special ad hoc committee just to emphasize the seriousness of the outcome. This result is clearly not going to change. It is explicitly a tie-breaker, and as far as I can tell, is currently used in that way only.

What effect it has on other institutions will be of interest. Princeton has certainly given them cover if they want it.

Another small note for sports fans. Transfer acceptances will be increased, mainly for veterans, juco grads, and others who’ve never before applied. The program has, from what I hear, been a huge success.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2024/03/26/princeton-university-admissions-to-continue-considering-legacy-status/?sh=dc91478150c7

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observer
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Date Posted: 11:53:22 04/09/24 Tue

If you think that legacy admissions in The Ivy League have only been used as a "tie-breaker" then I have some lovely oceanfront property in Coeur D'Alene in which you may be interested.

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joiseyfan
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Date Posted: 13:17:20 04/09/24 Tue

I never said any such thing. Read carefully for a change, and stop putting words in other people’s mouths.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: you mean this Coeur D'Alene


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holtsledge
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Date Posted: 13:55:33 04/09/24 Tue

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/idaho-isis-suspect-s-arrest-highlights-how-crypto-is-increasingly-popular-with-extremist-groups-expert-says/ar-BB1llbXA

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[> [> [> Subject: Six Months Like No Other in Half A Century


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 12:44:50 04/09/24 Tue

Thanks for the link, joisey. I think that, in time, Princeton's announcement regarding legacies will serve a similar role as Dartmouth's did regarding mandatory SAT scores.

The woke social justice warrior culture on elite American campuses has become so out of control that it will take a number of high profile events to get administrators and boards to even ask themselves, "What the hell are we doing?"

We've had five of those events in the last six months:

(1) the overtly anti-semitic protests at many campuses, most notably Harvard

(2) the unsightly Congressional testimony from the presidents of Harvard, Penn and MIT

(3) the resignation of President Gay, which is related but separate and distinct from (2). President Gay tripped up on Capitol Hill, but it was the plagiarism which was fatal

(4) Dartmouth reinstating mandatory SAT scores while announcing the results of an internal data-driven, results-oriented analysis showing that SAT optional actually hurts lower income applicants

(5) Princeton, the one American university which all others aspire to be in terms of alumni loyalty, putting a flag into the ground and saying, "We're gonna keep doing what we're doing"

Combine that with the Supreme Court decision banning affirmative action and this has been the most important six months in American higher education since affirmative action first became the universal policy in the Sixties and early Seventies.

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