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Subject: Both Sides Think They Hold the Winning Hand Author: An Observer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 16:52:05 09/12/24 Thu In reply to: Steve Mathiason 's message, "Re: Pac 12 gets a refresh" on 16:06:23 09/12/24 Thu I agree with you, Steve. The Mountain West Conference has twelve members. They could combine with the Pac-2, add Stanford/Cal, and still be a reasonable size at sixteen, the same as the Big Ten or SEC. But what a negotiating process! I would imagine that, at some point in the negotiations between the Pac-2 and the MWC, one of the Mountain West reps said, "You two need us more than we need you." At this point, the WSU and OSU reps probably smirked to themselves, knowing that they had already taken the temperature of Boise State et al about bolting from the MWC. A very possible outcome is Steve's scenario where everybody makes up and lives happily ever after. But the negotiating leverage has shifted and, in that kind of situation, it can be hard to reach an agreement because both sides overestimate their poker hand. What a drama. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> Subject: Not sure the Pac-Whatever is only looking at the MW Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:20:29 09/12/24 Thu I have no idea if they have a guaranteed access to the college playoff. But if they do, they the Pac-Whatever can expect that other G5 schools will at least return their calls... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Not sure the Pac-Whatever is only looking at the MW Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:57:06 09/12/24 Thu The new rule is that the four highest ranked conference champions will be seeded #1 through #4 and receive first round byes in the playoff. The fifth-ranked conference champion is also guaranteed to make the field of twelve, most likely as the #12 seed because the other entrants will be at-large selections. So I believe the Pac-2 would be on the same ground as the MWC insofar as, to get an automatic bid, its champion would need to be the next highest ranked conference champion after the Power Four. But you're right in that WSU and OSU might be thinking, "We don't need to simply accept the MWC as is, including their also-ran's. We can reconstitute any way we want, including perhaps one or two teams from outside the MWC, plus the best from the MWC." What a turnaround in two years, after WSU and OSU were the also-ran's left by the rest of the Pac-12. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]