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Subject: Re: New Columbia commit


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The Mountain Lion
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Date Posted: 13:45:04 10/30/24 Wed
In reply to: ungvar 's message, "New Columbia commit" on 11:41:13 10/30/24 Wed

Per Rubio Long Snapping, Columbia's new long snapper, Thomas Browne, is the eighth highest ranked long snapper in the United States.

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sparman
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Date Posted: 16:27:52 10/30/24 Wed

No offense intended to the player, but you have to admit that the general notion of ranking long snappers is entertaining.

I guess ranking trainers can't be too far down the road.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: New Columbia commit


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Bengal
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Date Posted: 23:51:48 10/31/24 Thu

There are also kicking schools who will hand out national rankings. P and other Ivies have had some highly ranked ones on their rosters: rated in the categories of PK; KO; and P. LS have the same opportunity.

I have assumed the proprietors of the schools, some of which I understand train kids from around the country or have regional camps, are mainly ranking high schoolers they are training. I may be wrong on that.

There are some objective measures, like hang time, distance etc. But ranking some PK, for example, as high number X in the country, strikes me as a very good and encouraging reflection on the kid, but quite a stretch in terms of how relatively accurate the ranking is. Also, when you kick a 50 yard FG in one of the kicking schools/camps and get rated thereon, how realistic is the exercise? Are 21 other players on the field when the FG/punt/ko is rated?

I remember seeing a kid rated the 237th best ILB in the country
by one of the national rating services. I wondered what separated him from, say

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sparman
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Date Posted: 09:02:07 11/01/24 Fri

To me, and accepting that, as you say, the kicking academies rank their own (paying) attendees, kicking is realistically rankable. Stats and results are there to see. Even offensive linemen have stats such as pressures and sacks allowed.

By what metric does one rank LS?

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Go Green
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Date Posted: 09:31:43 11/01/24 Fri


I'm guessing size and speed factor into it.

A guy who can snap a ball with pinpoint accuracy is of limited utility if he can't also stop a rush and/or run down the field to help out on return coverage.

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Bengal
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Date Posted: 09:32:32 11/01/24 Fri

Speed to the punter perhaps? Accuracy of the snap, although that will be a bit less objective? But as I say, when your ranking is mainly based on kicking camps/schools, how realistic is it? Kicking a 50 yd FG with no one rushing/blocking on the play measures what? Leg strength and accuracy during essentially warm ups? Not useless but not an evaluation during game time. If this is how these kicking schools rate kickers.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: New Columbia commit


Author:
The Mountain Lion
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Date Posted: 23:15:29 11/02/24 Sat

Ungvar, we may have missed the apparent commitment to Columbia a few months ago of Jevaughan Barnett-Jackson, the 6'2" 185 wide receiver at Oxon Hill Hill High School in Oxon Hill, Maryland. Barnett-Jackson has 4.5/40 speed.

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The Mountain Lion
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Date Posted: 23:26:43 11/02/24 Sat

My mistake, he's already on your list

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