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Subject: Re: 2025 Out of conference opponents Author: Washington Lion (Related question) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 19:03:51 12/08/24 Sun In reply to: Go Green 's message, "Re: 2025 Out of conference opponents" on 16:55:00 12/07/24 Sat What OOC opponents do you want to play? There was a run of years, mostly pre-Patriot League, when Ivy League teams with Yankee Conference counterparts (Brown-URI, Dartmouth-UNH, Harvard-UMass, Yale-UConn) played them in week two for a nice state rivalry Saturday. The Governor’s Cup and Granite Bowl remain good games; the other two would likely be competitive. William & Mary would be a good fit for any of eight: School and football program with Ivy-like histories, solid I-AA program with some recent playoff success, beautiful, appropriately sized stadium, recruiting opportunity in a region the Ivies seldom visit. Harvard-William & Mary makes particular sense, but they haven’t played in 30 years. Army and Navy are stretches at the moment, but won’t always be, as Yale’s 2014 team could tell you. Rutgers also, perhaps. For Columbia, I miss Fordham, but I repeat myself. Keep Georgetown and add William & Mary. Williamsburg is lovely in autumn, and nearer than all but Franklin Field. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: 2025 Out of conference opponents Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:57:35 12/09/24 Mon Unless your team is really struggling, I think most programs adhere to the "one reach, one jump ball, one cupcake" strategy for OOC. We can quibble, but for Dartmouth that would mean scheduling teams like UNH, Holy Cross, and a PFL team or Georgetown (no disrespect). That said, I'd certainly be up for scheduling teams outside of the Northeast besides the cupcakes... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Out of conference opponent - wishes and wants Author: voy vey [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:06:43 12/09/24 Mon Definitely William & Mary seems like an attractive opponent for any Ivy. Beyond the obvious Patriot League schools, and some of the CAA and Pioneer members, some schools that I'd like to see on more Ivy schedules: Cal Poly SLO Mercer Samford Furman both HBCU participants in the annual Bayou Classic: Southern U. and Grambling. Then there's the four "Directional Dakotas" and their neighbors Montana (X2) and Idaho - the teams that usually dominate the FCS tournament. I don't see a lot of value in scheduling them as a recruiting road trip, nor is there much value from an institutional synergy perspective. However, I suppose the argument could be made that respectable showings against those schools in a regular season contest could bolster the argument for playoff participation in the future. Lastly, there's the oft-stated desire to schedule FBS schools like the service academies, UMass/UConn, Rutgers, Rice, etc. Easy to state but tougher to do, thanks to lack of bowl-eligible status for a win vs. an Ivy team. The desire on the part of the Ivies may be great, but it takes two to schedule a game. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]