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Subject: Re: Harvard WR transfer Cooper Barkate transfers to Duke

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Date Posted: 17:17:45 12/31/24 Tue
In reply to: Bob S 's message, "Re: Harvard WR transfer Cooper Barkate transfers to Duke" on 16:54:49 12/31/24 Tue

I am as rabid a Princetonian as anyone.

At the same time, with age, I think it is important not to believe our own BS.

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Date Posted: 18:54:09 12/31/24 Tue

Bob S, when the idiot suit-filers at Brown (or was it the idiot unionizers at Dartmouth? -- sometimes it's difficult to keep idiots apart) filed their suit, I immediately posted here on this message board that they should lose their suit because there are many many colleges where one can get an excellent education. The Ivy League is not in any way a monopoly on selling a quality education.

So I agree with you 100% on that.

Having said that, at the risk of repeating myself (who am I kidding? -- I am repeating myself), a quality education at Northwestern or my state flagship university does not mean an equivalent undergraduate experience.

The people I met decades ago in college and immediately thereafter continue to be my most important personal and professional asset, outside of my family. You only get one chance to make college friends and acquaintances.

The education I could have easily replicated at my state flagship university. The professional network? The friends who have walked with me since graduation day? Never. And I lived in a state with a pretty good flagship university.

I firmly believe that one can get a similarly high quality *education* at any one of the top 25 most highly rated universities in the US News ranking, plus another top 15 or so among the liberal arts colleges. There's almost no difference between them.

I also believe that there's a huge difference in the POTENTIAL *experience* just in the top 10, probably the top 5.

My best friend in high school was accepted to his first choice college, Cornell. He attended the University of Virginia because his father asked him to save money on tuition even though the father was a highly paid corporate executive.

It's only in the last few years that I have fully realized what a mistake the father made. I'm still best friends with this guy, close enough that a couple of months ago I felt that I could tell him the following.

He said, "Maybe I should have gone to Cornell. Maybe Virginia was a mistake." I replied, "Your father made a mistake. You made a mistake. I would have crawled on my hands and knees to attend my first choice college and nothing my parents could have said would have stopped me. Picking a college based on cost is a terrible decision."

These are the decisions that a seventeen-year-old kid needs to be able to make well. These decisions matter. That's how lives well lived and lived to their fullest are crafted.

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