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Subject: Stanford Summer School Author: An Observer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 21:18:41 01/02/25 Thu In reply to: IvySportsJunkie 's message, "Re: Harvard WR transfer Cooper Barkate transfers to Duke" on 15:51:31 01/02/25 Thu ISJ, I think your back-of-the-envelope method of measuring the rigor of a football roster's college education (counting the engineering, computer science or physical science majors relative to the humanities) is a very reasonable shorthand for who is getting a real education. Congratulations to Stanford for putting together so many options for their athletes to take real classes and tough majors. I imagine that the Ivy League would be loathe to permit summer classes just for athletes, although if standard NARP students could take them as well, it might pass muster with the powers that be. Stanford's an amazing place. What they have built just since World War II is unprecedented in education at any level anywhere. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: Harvard WR transfer Cooper Barkate transfers to Duke Author: M3 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:18:02 01/03/25 Fri Thanks for research/investigation on Stanford football. This is the pragmatic "out of the box thinking "concerning sports that is needed from the IL to manage the new world of NIL and possibly even becoming relevant again on a national level in football. Another observation. Navy and Army have shown that they can compete on a FBS level with serious academics and on top of that a very disciplined lifestyle for their athletes. Why not the IL? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Harvard WR transfer Cooper Barkate transfers to Duke Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:09:13 01/03/25 Fri Because they don't want to be relevant. Would the FCS playoff proposal not come from an HYP football player, it never would have carried. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: The Fairer Sex Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:40:41 01/03/25 Fri I'm not saying you're wrong but, to be fair, the FCS playoff proposal was pushed by an HYP football player after being initiated by a Brown softball player. Let's give the lady her due. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Stanford Athletics Author: 2Coasts [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:11:53 01/03/25 Fri Stanford’s academic calendar is four quarters, not semesters. I think this has some advantage re: athletes schedules. “Summer” school is available for all students and course options reflect that. It is remarkable the number of Stanford athletes who are able to obtain degrees in lab intensive majors. Of course, I remember a few years ago when an EE major basketball player was flown to Seattle because his Prof insisted he complete a certain lab with no extension granted. He got there in time to play. But, the issues facing Stanford and Cal today have to do with insane 3000 mile travel, late to the party NIL strategy and more rigorous transfer admissions standards than the majority of power two or four or whatever it is schools. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Stanford Athletics Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:30:26 01/04/25 Sat To be fair, Stanford cares less about the big money sports than most power 4 schools. They love getting attention from their Golf/Tennis/Baseball alumni of renown. They are always in play for the Learfield because they actually field lots of teams unlike most power 4 schools. They did try to shut a few of them down a few years ago and got hit hard by alumni/student potential lawsuits. This is the challenge faced by donor-funded teams rather than market-funded programs. If you try to shut down a wrestling program which has a dedicated endowment, you can find yourself in hot water with a livid donor. But if you fund your program with ticket sales and media rights... you can direct your donors to NIL and facilities, rather than coaching salaries, team travel and uniforms. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]