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Subject: Re: Um, yes Author: observer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 23:39:30 01/25/25 Sat In reply to: sparman 's message, "Um, no" on 13:11:27 01/25/25 Sat Do you really think that Stanford's and Michigan's main identifying features are sports, and sports alone? Does Michigan's National Championship last year minimize the excellence of its undergraduate programs (not to mention its medical school, law school and business school)? Does Stanford's hold on the Learfield Trophy and raft of Hall of Fame alumni such as John Elway, Mike Mussina, Tiger Woods (among others) diminish its academic programs? This binary thinking of either one or the other is dooming the Ivy League to eventual D3 status. One can be all of the above without injuring the institution. Everyone knows that sacrifices have always been made at the admissions office in the service of politics, optics, development and the personal preference of Trustees and Presidents (if not faculty coercion, as well). The idea that Ivy schools should not embrace the new era of NCAA sports because it's "bad for our image" might be the single best reason to do so. The image of the eight schools has never been lower in the public eye. The attendance data is one of those indicators. Maybe focusing on Bread and Circus instead of Protest and Resistance might help, not hurt, the ancient eight. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]