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Subject: ILT Day Two Author: joiseyfan [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 12:20:55 05/09/24 Thu In reply to: joiseyfan 's message, "A Real Softball" on 18:33:26 05/04/24 Sat Tigers’ Shaw and Wright shut down Crimson on two hits, 3-1. Princeton now 14-3 at home; the #1 seed has been a huge advantage so far. Tigers to finals Saturday. DY starting now, winner takes on H, supposedly tomorrow. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: ILT Day Two Author: joiseyfan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:19:19 05/09/24 Thu Just so you can say a prayer for GG, Hall pitching again for Green, as of now ahead 4-0 in the top of the third.

[> [> [> Subject: Dartmouth survives by fingernails... Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:39:14 05/09/24 Thu Was tracking the game. Hall looked like her normal self for six innings. And then the wheels came off. Singles, hit bats(wo)men, walks. The type of stuff that resulted in a few runs yesterday. Appears the game ended on a fly ball with the bases loaded and the runner being thrown out at third???? If so, the poor Yale player did not know that you should never, never, never, NEVER make the third out running to third base if its not absolutely mandatory to do so.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: ILT Day Two Author: joiseyfan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:13:07 05/09/24 Thu Top of seventh. One run in, D up 4-2, runners on second and third, one out. Yale getting to Hall, as per GG. Fly to medium deep center giving CF time to circle, CF ignores run scoring on the SF, per the textbook, throws a strike to third to get the runner trying to advance from second. Game over 4-3. Never never never make the final out at third except on a force. Couldn't see the third base coach on video, but it makes no difference. Will be known as GG's law now.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Flattering, but Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:46:00 05/09/24 Thu Not trying for third with two outs is a pretty basic, time-honored strategy--at least in baseball. There are reasons why a runner on second is considered to be in "scoring position." Maybe taking the gamble is different in softball. But obviously, it backfired for Yale today.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Just watched the play Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:32:11 05/09/24 Thu That was a terrible decision by the Yale runner on second. The flyball wasn't hit that deep to centerfield and she was out by quite a bit. I, too, would be curious to know what (if anything) the third base coach was signaling to the runner.

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Just watched the play Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:05:59 05/10/24 Fri Back in my Little League days, we had two relevant baserunning rules: (1) Don't make either the FIRST or the THIRD out at third base. (2) Don't end your season at third base.

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Was watching a game last night... Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:24:45 05/14/24 Tue Involving the same scenario (albeit in the middle innings). The third base coach was watching the outfielder and told the runner on third base "go!" as soon as the ball was caught. The coach was not paying attention to the runner on second (who, of course, did not attempt to advance given that the caught ball was the second out). I suspect that's the way things went down in the Yale-Dartmouth game. The Yale third base coach was likely focusing on the fly ball and the runner on third. When she saw that the runner on second was attempting to advance, she probably thought "NOOOO!!!!!" :)

[> [> Subject: Re: ILT Day Two Author: joiseyfan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:19:49 05/09/24 Thu D vs. H tomorrow in sudden death. Will Green start Hall again? (Nah, c'mon, man...)

[> [> [> Subject: Personally, I'd give her a rest Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:47:45 05/09/24 Thu Even if we beat Harvard tomorrow, we still will have to take two against Princeton later. Hall has got to be tired. And McCarroll is certainly decent.