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Subject: Re: Greatest Upsets Ever Author: M3 [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 20:20:07 10/05/25 Sun In reply to: An Observer 's message, "Greatest Upsets Ever" on 13:16:54 10/05/25 Sun https://goprincetontigers.com/news/1999/11/15/737740 [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: Greatest Upsets Ever Author: bulldog10jw [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:45:41 10/05/25 Sun Carm Cozza's greatest blunder IMO. Yale had a 4th and 2 at about the Princeton 20 with a couple of minutes left ahead 31-28. Our defense had not stopped Princeton at all in the second half and no one thought they would stop Princeton if they got the ball back (which turned out to be true). A first down would have ended the game. Rich Diana had already rushed for over 200 yards. Seemed like a no brainer. Instead Yale tried a FG which would have only put them up by six which would obviously not be enough. It was no good. Now maybe Princeton would have stopped Diana on 4th down, but I would rather have gone down with our best.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Greatest Upsets Ever Author: Old Blue [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:52:06 10/05/25 Sun Gentlemen; I totally agree Coach Cozza blunder trying to kick a 42 yard field goal into a cross wind when Mr.Diana had 222 yards running. Old Nassau did convert 3 or 4/4 and 10+ during that final touchdown drive. Actually was one of the best college games in a long time. Except for the final result.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Greatest Upsets Ever Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:33:22 10/06/25 Mon I agree with Bulldog and OB that going for it on fourth-and-short in that game situation is the right call. Best case, you end the game. Worst case, the opposing offense needs to go a long distance. Carm's decision touches upon two other recent board topics. Any Ivy League field goal attempt of >30 yards in 1981 was still a bit of an adventure. There was less need to fear a long Princeton field goal attempt (say, >45) than there would be today, off the FieldTurf of either the Bowl or Princeton Stadium. Secondly, to be fair to Carm (and this is not a defense, just a mitigation), back in 1981, going for it on fourth down was simply still considered bold and dangerous. Today of course, analytics have convinced coaches all the way up to conservatives like Bill Belichick to go for it. That instinct served BB well with Jordan Hudson. To summarize, there's no question that Carm should have gone for it in the cool waning sun that November day in Palmer Stadium, but it was a different day and time.