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Subject: On Manliness and Honor


Author:
An Observer
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Date Posted: 11:56:20 10/15/25 Wed
In reply to: Go Green 's message, "I've taken risks, if that's what you're asking" on 16:30:17 10/14/25 Tue

For a knowledge professional whose career depends upon consuming and understanding complex documents, your reading comprehension skills are poor.

(1) I did not ask you for an example where you were a coward or a chicken -- on the contrary, though I appreciate your offering the example where you declined to chase your dreams in Hollywood for the safer and more boring path of corporate law.

(2) I did not ask you for an example where you simply took a risk. Again, I appreciate your story of accepting and pursuing cases other lawyers declined but, frankly, that's not taking a risk as much as it is picking up crumbs others did not want.

(3) I specifically asked you, again and again and again, for an example where you chose the path of "manly honor" in pursuing a goal the hard way when an easier option existed. I don't know why you can't understand my request. You have criticized Steve Tosches on this message board for the two decades it has existed. And yet you yourself cannot offer a single snippet where you lived up to your own standard.

GG, you're a fraud. You criticize another man for not taking the riskier, tougher path in the name of manliness, or honor, or sportsmanship, but you yourself have no examples of ever doing so either.

Your protestation that football is different from any other pursuit in life is bulls--t and you should know it. We love sports because they reflect life, not because they are separate and distinct from life.

Teddy Roosevelt profoundly told us that the credit belongs not to the critic, but to the man in the arena.

Steve Tosches was the man in the arena in 1995 and he made his choice. As a result, his players were outright Ivy League champions.

You are only a critic, not the man in the arena. That you once played football for Dartmouth is irrelevant. You have not once in your life stepped up and made the type of choice you demand of Tosches.

Don't criticize Steve Tosches when you have done nothing in your life to earn the credibility to do so. You have not earned that honor.

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Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 14:48:25 10/15/25 Wed


I’ll happily take it!

:)
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Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 15:12:36 10/15/25 Wed


Notre Dame students collected and burned the sports illustrated issue that had Jenkins’ column crucifying the Irish after the 1966 game.

I get called a fraud.

I stand with Jenkins.


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