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Subject: NCAA Brings Down the Gavel on Michigan Football: $20 Million Author: An Observer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 17:54:21 08/16/25 Sat It took the NCAA two years to conduct an investigation into the alleged sign-stealing scheme allegedly orchestrated by Michigan football and alleged then-head football coach Jim Harbaugh. I don't know why every NCAA investigation seems to take two years. Then-graduate assistant Conor Stallion admitted to sending a team of dozens of staffers/spies/co-conspirators to film 52 games over three years. Stallion admitted he destroyed evidence that the NCAA was looking for, including throwing much of it to "the bottom of a pond." That seems to be a smoking gun. It took the NCAA two years to finish its investigation of Tommy Amaker even though I don't think either Amaker or then pre-employee Kenny Blakeney denied Blakeney had committed recruiting practices that would have been prohibited had he been an employee. That, too, seemed to be a smoking gun. Well, like Harvard, Michigan is taking the "I don't know what you're talking about" defense. I don't know how you throw videotapes to the bottom of a pond and then say you're innocent. Anyway, the NCAA is going to: (a) apply a ten-year "show cause" penalty on Harbaugh and Stallion. (b) add on to Michigan's self-imposed two game ban on current head coach Sherrone Moore. (c) penalize Michigan football what ESPN has reported will be $20 million. Stallion and Michigan have promised to fight this thing "everywhere and to the end." Among everything else going in college sports, we now have a prominent program, just one year removed from a national championship, denying that a violation occurred even though an employee admitted to destroying evidence and orchestrating the basic conduct alleged. Remember the good old days when a program would say, "Gosh, we're really sorry and we promise that it won't happen again?" That has been replaced with, "We're lawyering up." [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: NCAA Brings Down the Gavel on Michigan Football: $20 Million Author: ivy guy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:44:47 08/16/25 Sat current head coach Sherrone Moore got an additional game suspension for allegedly destroying evidence--encrypted emails and cell phone texts. not a good look for UMichigan ***

[> Subject: How long do Ivy investigations last? Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:49:56 08/17/25 Sun My recollection was that the Ivy came down pretty quickly on Brown when they were providing financial aid to football players not available to the student body...

[> [> Subject: You Are Correct, GG. And That's the Difference Between Harvard and Brown Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:07:23 08/17/25 Sun You are correct, GG. And that's the difference between Harvard and Brown. If you'll recall, the Ivy League office was the first to investigate the alleged misdeeds allegedly committed by Harvard alleged coach Amaker. The League office took a quick look around the Lavietes locker room and opined, "Seems clean to us. Nothing to see here." The conference office ruled that Harvard had committed no offense. After that, the NCAA weighed in, "Not so fast, my friends." The NCAA then began their own two-year investigation which reached the opposite conclusion as the conference investigators: A recruiting violation had been committed. Four years ago, the Ivy League office on the Sunday morning after an Ivy League football had been concluded issued a press release stating that Harvard had been robbed of a rightful victory but that, in the name of decorum, Princeton would be allowed to count the "W". What the hell? The Ivy League athletic conference is three-quarters of century old and this is the first time that a game was adjudicated the day following the final whistle. It's the same as Michael Jordan getting all the calls in the last two minutes. Brown ain't gettin' that call.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: You Are Correct, GG. And That's the Difference Between Harvard and Brown Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:53:29 08/17/25 Sun Could you imagine what would happen if the staff at the B1G TEN office had Ohio State email addresses? Or if the SEC home office was on campus in Athens, GA?

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: You Are Correct, GG. And That's the Difference Between Harvard and Brown Author: RedWin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:32:09 08/17/25 Sun Simple solution to sign stealing, it's called a huddle. Another reason why the NFL continue to huddle. If you're going use signs, then I don't have a problem with the other coach figuring out your signs and adjusting. If the Michigan coaches are watching the other teams signs, then figuring out the tendency what is wrong with that? If you go no-huddle offense then that's the risk you run.

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: You Are Correct, GG. And That's the Difference Between Harvard and Brown Author: Lurker [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:40:16 08/18/25 Mon That was not the misdeed. Off campus scouting was the violation

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: You Are Correct, GG. And That's the Difference Between Harvard and Brown Author: RedWin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:58:22 08/18/25 Mon Oh........thanks for clarifying Lurker.

[> Subject: Re: NCAA Brings Down the Gavel on Michigan Football: $20 Million Author: Thoughtswhileshaving [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:18:41 08/19/25 Tue AO, I always come back to WWLS ( What would Livvy say?)