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Date Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2004, 10:30:03 PST
Author: PD
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Subject: Re: Chen Pan Ling Tai Chi Form
In reply to: wushao 's message, "Re: Chen Pan Ling Tai Chi Form" on Wed, Nov 17 2004, 11:50:29 PST

Hi Wushao,
I don't have the book in front of me right now. However, Chen Panling himself did never intend to add xingyi or bagua to his form, at least not if we are to believe his own words in his book Taijiquan Jiaocai. There are so many similarities between xingyi, bagua and taiji in terms of physical technique that a picture of one can often easily be said to be of one of the other arts. When you see them performed, however, the 'flavour' of the movement is very different, as are the combat strategies, strengths and weaknesses. I studied with two teachers in Taiwan, one who was a student of Chen and one who was a student of Wang. They are quite different in flavour, with Wang's version being much more a combination of the three arts, and Chen's not. In addition, I've seen many students in the CPL lineage outside my own practice group and none of them perform it with a xingyi or bagua flavour.

Having said that, I'm of course not questioning that your practice merges the the three or that there is the spirit of xingyi and bagua in yours. There is most certainly in my own practice and I like that a lot. I'll check out the page numbers tonight to see what you mean though....

Cheers!

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