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Date Posted: 19:55:07 08/21/02 Wed
Author: Dee
Author Host/IP: ool-18b8df10.dyn.optonline.net / 24.184.223.16
Subject: Re: bye bye Canarsie Indians
In reply to: post reader 's message, "bye bye Canarsie Indians" on 15:07:38 07/18/02 Thu

Isn't CANARSIE an Indian name? Should we have to change the name of our town? If at first we were called "The Canarsie Thunder", would we be called inconsiderate for not honoring the Indians? Am I no longer allowed to call myself a former "Canarsien"? Or shall I be called a former "land that used to be swamp and Indian owned-IAN"? It's really ridiculous. I say let it be, you can't possibly make everyone happy all of that time. By the way, my Great Grandmother is Native American and my Grandfather grew up on what is now 94th street. From the family stories I was told, the Indians were happy that they made money off the land and were able to live prosperious lives.
Next we will hear that the word "thunder" is slanderous to Mother Nature!

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[> Re: bye bye Canarsie Indians -- larry triolo, 17:06:17 09/20/02 Fri (cache-dh01.proxy.aol.com/205.188.208.165)

>SCHOOLS 'BANISH' INDIANS
>>
>> By CARL CAMPANILE and KENNETH LOVETT
>>
>--i will miss that chief-----------------------------------------------------
>-------------------
>--
>> ----
>>
>>
>>
>> July 18, 2002 -- EXCLUSIVE
>>
>> Six city high schools have been ordered to change
>the Native American
>> nicknames of their teams and remove all signs with
>names like Chiefs,
>> Indians and Warriors from their grounds because
>they're "disparaging," The
>> Post has learned.
>>
>> Brooklyn's Canarsie HS Chiefs have already announced
>a name change to
>> "Thunder."
>>
>> The huge "CANARSIE CHIEFS" sign on the football
>field fence will be taken
>> down. It depicts a chief in feathered headdress,
>with bulging eyes and
>> gritting teeth, carrying a football in one hand and
>a tomahawk in the
>other,
>> over the words, "HOUSE OF PAIN."
>>
>> A spokeswoman for Schools Chancellor Harold Levy
>said five other high
>> schools have also been told to change their names.
>>
>> They're Grover Cleveland in Queens (Indians) and
>four that call their
>teams
>> the Warriors: George Westinghouse and Benjamin
>Banneker in Brooklyn, Urban
>> Peace Academy in Manhattan and Curtis on Staten
>Island.
>>
>> The war against Native American school names was
>launched last year by
>state
>> Education Commissioner Richard Mills. He issued a
>memo asking school
>> districts to eliminate such "disparaging symbols and
>mascots" because they
>> "can become a barrier to building a safe and
>nurturing school community."
>>
>> A recent state Education Department Survey found
>that 60 of 108 school
>> districts discontinued or are phasing out the use of
>Native American
>names.
>>
>> Brooklyn deputy superintendent for high schools Don
>Roth said a panel of
>> representatives at Canarsie voted to eliminate
>"Chiefs."
>>
>> But Canarsie students told The Post they opposed the
>name change, noting
>> that Canarsie also is a Native American name that
>carries historical
>value.
>>
>> Ethan Henry, 16, said "the name 'Chief' is a symbol
>of pride. It's not
>> racism."
>>
>> Meanwhile, representatives of two of the state's
>largest Indian nations
>> applauded schools for trying to show more
>sensitivity.
>>
>> "It's still important that Native Americans be
>properly portrayed," said
>> Mark Emery, spokesman for the Oneida Indian Nation
>near Syracuse.
>>
>> Rowena General of the St. Regis Mohawks in northern
>New York agreed.
>>
>> "We welcome any changes to any mascots that are
>derogatory to any nation
>of
>> people, but I can't say the issue is a priority,"
>General said.
>>
>> <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/52801.htm">http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/52801.htm</a>
>>
>>


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