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Date Posted: 17:06:17 09/20/02 Fri
Author: larry triolo
Author Host/IP: cache-dh01.proxy.aol.com / 205.188.208.165
Subject: Re: bye bye Canarsie Indians
In reply to: post reader 's message, "bye bye Canarsie Indians" on 15:07:38 07/18/02 Thu

>SCHOOLS 'BANISH' INDIANS
>>
>> By CARL CAMPANILE and KENNETH LOVETT
>>
>--i will miss that chief-----------------------------------------------------
>-------------------
>--
>> ----
>>
>>
>>
>> July 18, 2002 -- EXCLUSIVE
>>
>> Six city high schools have been ordered to change
>the Native American
>> nicknames of their teams and remove all signs with
>names like Chiefs,
>> Indians and Warriors from their grounds because
>they're "disparaging," The
>> Post has learned.
>>
>> Brooklyn's Canarsie HS Chiefs have already announced
>a name change to
>> "Thunder."
>>
>> The huge "CANARSIE CHIEFS" sign on the football
>field fence will be taken
>> down. It depicts a chief in feathered headdress,
>with bulging eyes and
>> gritting teeth, carrying a football in one hand and
>a tomahawk in the
>other,
>> over the words, "HOUSE OF PAIN."
>>
>> A spokeswoman for Schools Chancellor Harold Levy
>said five other high
>> schools have also been told to change their names.
>>
>> They're Grover Cleveland in Queens (Indians) and
>four that call their
>teams
>> the Warriors: George Westinghouse and Benjamin
>Banneker in Brooklyn, Urban
>> Peace Academy in Manhattan and Curtis on Staten
>Island.
>>
>> The war against Native American school names was
>launched last year by
>state
>> Education Commissioner Richard Mills. He issued a
>memo asking school
>> districts to eliminate such "disparaging symbols and
>mascots" because they
>> "can become a barrier to building a safe and
>nurturing school community."
>>
>> A recent state Education Department Survey found
>that 60 of 108 school
>> districts discontinued or are phasing out the use of
>Native American
>names.
>>
>> Brooklyn deputy superintendent for high schools Don
>Roth said a panel of
>> representatives at Canarsie voted to eliminate
>"Chiefs."
>>
>> But Canarsie students told The Post they opposed the
>name change, noting
>> that Canarsie also is a Native American name that
>carries historical
>value.
>>
>> Ethan Henry, 16, said "the name 'Chief' is a symbol
>of pride. It's not
>> racism."
>>
>> Meanwhile, representatives of two of the state's
>largest Indian nations
>> applauded schools for trying to show more
>sensitivity.
>>
>> "It's still important that Native Americans be
>properly portrayed," said
>> Mark Emery, spokesman for the Oneida Indian Nation
>near Syracuse.
>>
>> Rowena General of the St. Regis Mohawks in northern
>New York agreed.
>>
>> "We welcome any changes to any mascots that are
>derogatory to any nation
>of
>> people, but I can't say the issue is a priority,"
>General said.
>>
>> <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/52801.htm">http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/52801.htm</a>
>>
>>

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[> Re: bye bye Canarsie Indians -- Roger Jessamy, 06:06:36 10/09/02 Wed (0-1pool244-59.nas1.vienna1.va.us.da.qwest.net/63.158.244.59)

>SCHOOLS 'BANISH' INDIANS
>>
With all the things that plague our New York City school system. This hunt for erasing indian names is ridiculous!
I played for the "mighty Mighty Blue Chiefs" We took pride in our name, and I still do!

With all low test scores, drugs, crime, and many other things(That has been around and rising for bout a decade)
They are trying to attack Canarsie High team names.

Let pose a question to all who read this!
We all heard of Cherokee, Suiox, and Seminole indians right?
What makes Canarsie's situation unique from the other schools in New York, andwhatpeople may not know. The Canarsee indians are an tribe of indians, hence the name "Canarsie" Keep up with me now!

The Chiefs have now changed their name to the Canarsie Thunder! Doesnt this new name still give an fear striking indian attack. The canarsie indians are thundering towards you!

Same effect as Canarsie Chiefs, if not worst!
With The Canarsie Chiefs, there was no emotion expressed, now these same canarsie indians are thundering towards us.

Any name that Canarsie chooses will be seem degrading to someone,unless theyname themselves the powder puffs, or cottonballs!

Just think about it!

If our school is named after indians, this is an honor. But think about, this is sports, football, cmon canarsie football, your name sends a message. The chiefs is the best name for this.

Notice how its alwaysnon native americans making these decisions, I have lived in canarsie 20 of my 26 years have not ever seen a native american.

Next we will have to change name from Canarsie to George Bush High School, rather close school first!>>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------
>--
>> ----
>>
>>
>>
>> July 18, 2002 -- EXCLUSIVE
>>
>> Six city high schools have been ordered to change
>the Native American
>> nicknames of their teams and remove all signs with
>names like Chiefs,
>> Indians and Warriors from their grounds because
>they're "disparaging," The
>> Post has learned.
>>
>> Brooklyn's Canarsie HS Chiefs have already announced
>a name change to
>> "Thunder."
>>
>> The huge "CANARSIE CHIEFS" sign on the football
>field fence will be taken
>> down. It depicts a chief in feathered headdress,
>with bulging eyes and
>> gritting teeth, carrying a football in one hand and
>a tomahawk in the
>other,
>> over the words, "HOUSE OF PAIN."
>>
>> A spokeswoman for Schools Chancellor Harold Levy
>said five other high
>> schools have also been told to change their names.
>>
>> They're Grover Cleveland in Queens (Indians) and
>four that call their
>teams
>> the Warriors: George Westinghouse and Benjamin
>Banneker in Brooklyn, Urban
>> Peace Academy in Manhattan and Curtis on Staten
>Island.
>>
>> The war against Native American school names was
>launched last year by
>state
>> Education Commissioner Richard Mills. He issued a
>memo asking school
>> districts to eliminate such "disparaging symbols and
>mascots" because they
>> "can become a barrier to building a safe and
>nurturing school community."
>>
>> A recent state Education Department Survey found
>that 60 of 108 school
>> districts discontinued or are phasing out the use of
>Native American
>names.
>>
>> Brooklyn deputy superintendent for high schools Don
>Roth said a panel of
>> representatives at Canarsie voted to eliminate
>"Chiefs."
>>
>> But Canarsie students told The Post they opposed the
>name change, noting
>> that Canarsie also is a Native American name that
>carries historical
>value.
>>
>> Ethan Henry, 16, said "the name 'Chief' is a symbol
>of pride. It's not
>> racism."
>>
>> Meanwhile, representatives of two of the state's
>largest Indian nations
>> applauded schools for trying to show more
>sensitivity.
>>
>> "It's still important that Native Americans be
>properly portrayed," said
>> Mark Emery, spokesman for the Oneida Indian Nation
>near Syracuse.
>>
>> Rowena General of the St. Regis Mohawks in northern
>New York agreed.
>>
>> "We welcome any changes to any mascots that are
>derogatory to any nation
>of
>> people, but I can't say the issue is a priority,"
>General said.
>>
>> <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/52801.htm">http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/52801.htm</a>
>>
>>


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