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Subject: Re: Finnish units

Author:
Karri

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Date Posted: 12:13:00 10/11/05 Tue
In reply to: Karri 's message, "Finnish units" on 10:55:39 09/28/05 Wed

I've been going through the Finnish oob, and re-doing it partly, this is what I've come up with infantry regiments so far:
144 x rifle squad, however I've read that often companies only had 3 rifle platoons, and 4th only existed on paper. So perhaps the max strenght should thus 108 rifle squads, but the units start with 144.
3 x 120mm mortar assigned, increasing to 9 as the war progresses.
9 x 81mm mortar
10-20 SMG squads, increasing to 50 by 1944. AFAIK, there were no SMG squads, instead the rifles were simply replaced with SMG on the rifle squads. Normally a rifle squads consisted of LMG, SMG and 6 rifles. But since HRS's are for Germans, it's best to just add SMG squads.
6 x AT-Gun, still researching on what AT-guns they had.
36 x Heavy machineguns.
4 x engineer sqauds. The engineers were organised into Engineer battalions, which were subordinate untis to divisions.
20 x jaegar squads. I'm not quite sure what these should be. Assault sqauds? HRS's? Not Rifle squads that's for sure.
21 x Rifle AT+ Squads. Each Company had an 'antitank squad' which consisted of 1 SMG, 8 rifles and 4 AT rifles. Also Machinegun companies had an anti-tank platoon(4 AT-sqauds). The best way to represent this is with with Rifle AT+ squads.

I also checked the finnish HQ artillery, and re-did and as a result the untis lost 1-4 'attack' strenght.

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Author:
Snefens
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Date Posted: 18:43:22 10/13/05 Thu

I'm not at home until maybe monday. Then I'll look thoroughly into it. Here's just some initial thoughts on the equipment types without any books or sources to back it up.

Rifle squads, mortars and AT-guns sounds about right.
SMG squads is dangerous adding 20/50 because they will recieve the extra 30 already in 1941.
Hvy MG. Not that your figure is incorrect, but for all forces in the game we have actually cut (about in half) the number of MG's in the divisions compared to what they "should" have. We just consider them integrated part of the squads.
Jaeger squads. Are these heavier than regular rifle squads or lighter for better movement?
Rifle AT+ squads. Considering we use HR AT- as Germans equipped with Panzerfausts, it's real overkill giving them AT+ because of 4 AT-rifles. I lean more into just adding them to rifle squads and 4*21 AT (maybe hvy) rifles as seperate equipment.

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