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Subject: Important investigations about what authorities do to kids


Author:
Knut Holt
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Date Posted: 17/03/18 17:50:08



CASE REPORTS TO BE FOUND BELOW THE LINKS

Interesting polls about events in childhood, teenhood and adulthood

By Knut Holt

Please also look at this website with interesting information for men and women about metods to get good health, condition, physical strength, beauty and potency

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

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You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about. If the lonks are not active, please copy them and use them in the address fields of your browser.
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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/616524

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Americans- please tell in my unbiased poll who you would vote for if rhe presidential election was today

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/621050

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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm


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SOME OF THE STORIES I HAVE COLLECTED
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Girl, Western Europe, development and pelvic exam with psychologic test

I am a female. I was a school-aged child. Year 1970 - 1979. In eastern Europe. I was examined in a health centre.

EXAM OVERVIEW

They did an orthopedic exam. They examined my genitals. They examined my rectal zone. They did a general examination of my pelvic zones. They inserted instruments into my mouth. They performed a psychological exam.


PREPARATIONS AND ANESTHESIA

I was given sadative or pain-killing medicines through my mouths. I was sedated but awake. I was naked at the examined body parts and at my genital/rectal zone but elsewere clothed.


THE ORDEAL STEP BY STEP

The first thing they did with me was undressing my outer skirt and panties Only my undershirt i have on for exam. Them messure temperature in rectum, thirdly exam my anus. Thereafter he inspected my vagina. He gave me a shot for health, dont remember for what it was. Somebody also came and performed a psychological test.


MORE ABOUT THE GENITAL EXAM

They did not examine my urinary system. They palpated my outer female genitals. They spread my genital lips to look inside. They took speciments (pap smears etc) from my vagina with an instrument.


MORE ABOUT THE RECTAL EXAM

They spread my cheeks and examined extarnally my rectal zone. They examined my rectum with an inserted finger.


DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW UP

The exam did not result in any diagnosis.


HOW THE EXAM WAS FELT AND OPINIONS

What is your opinion about this experience? I was nervous and be ashamed for doing this. But Nothing real weird happaned, though.


COMMENTS

By this exam they checked the physical and psyhological development and the health im the genital and anal region. They also checked for habits related to the pelvic area, including sexual habits, including ,aturbation or sexual play with otherschildren, or possibly sexual abuse by others.

The parents or the authorities were possibly concerned for her for some reason.

But from the way the exam was perfomed step by step, it looks more that this was something all or many children in the society went through at that age, either for general surveillance or for research. Such ordeals are seldome announced openly even then all have them.

It is possible that more was done than remembered, because this kind of anestehsia is used to reduce rememberance, apart from making the child relaxed and comfortable.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com

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Girl, 14yo, Russia, Stomach and pelvic exam at school

I am female. It happened in Russia, in 2015 or later, 14 years old. My parents drove me to the exam at a room in the school that was preliminary prepared for the event. All children in my school of the age group.


PREPARATIONS

I was totally naked through all the procedures. I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up, spread and mounted upon two devices. I got a tube or sond in through my anus. I did not get any anesthesia.


EXTERNAL EXAM PROCEDURES

They examined my stomach area with and ultrasound device or something similar. They examined my hip area with an ultrasound device or something similar.


INTERNAL EXAM PROCEDURES

The doctor explored my vagina with a finger. They used a speculum in my vagina. They took specimens from my vagina with a tube. They inspected my anus with a speculum.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam.

THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I attended ordinary daytime school.



COMMENTS

This exam had the purpose of exploring the development status of the kids, and the health in the stomach area and pelvic organs. The kids probably had a more ordinary school physical some time before to explore the development status on the rest of the body.

It is uncerain what the tube in the anus inserted during the preparations was for. It was possibly there to flush the lower digestive system clean or possibly to install contrast fluid for the ultrasound exam at the stomach area.


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Girls, Eastern Europe, 9,11,13yo, health check with extensive internal inspections

I am male. I answer poll as physiscian, not a patient. It happened in Eastern Europem, 1980-1989, on girls 9 years old 11 year old 13 years old. I worked for goverment /state hospital solvakia. Sorry english is not so good.
(The language somewhat brushed up under the edition).

It happened as a routine health check with data collection on random girls selected from local city with parents. They were checked and used to represent whole country as example. Although no force was used it was compuslary in the sense that if they did not come when selected, state healthcare and benefits got stopped.

The parents drove them to the exam at a regular hospital.


PREPARATIONS

They were not allowed to eat some time before the exam. They were given a gown but were naked under the gown in the time they stayed awake and had to take all clothes off just before the procedures.


When first stripped they were placed on a little metal table like at a morgue. One weighted the patient on it and measure height, and firther wosthed them on this table.

The stomach was cleaned out by a tube incerted into the anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine. (Uncertain from the testamonial if this happened on this table or later)

One then then transfered them to opertion table in lithomy position for access to genital and anal opening. It this psoirion they lay on back with legs flexed, spread and mounted upon two devices.

They got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm, a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in blood, a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg, electrodes on cheast, a tube or wire in through urethra.

They got anesthesia through tubes into blood vessel, anesthesia gas to breath in through a mask. One then paralyzed whole body and they got artificial breathing, all of which put them completely to sleep.


EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

One performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They used electrodes at chest to record body functions. They performed an analysis of breathing and oxygen uptake where they had to breath into a tube.

They examined upper body and hip area with an ultrasound device or something similar. They took x-ray pictures of chest, hip area and limbs.


INTERNAL INSPECTIONS IN THE UPPER BODY ZONES AND UPPER DIGESTIVE SYSTEM

They inspected the inside of throut with a scope. They took specimens from throut with a tube, throut culture.

One performed gastroscopy, OGD, and took samples from stomach.


UROGENITAL IMSPECTIONS

Done to obtain tissue samples and take measurements.

They inspected the inside of urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from urethra with a tube. They took specimens from bladder with a tube. Bladder biopsy taken.


The doctor explored vagina with a finger. They used a speculum in vagina. They took specimens from vagina with a tube, vaginal and cervical swabs.



ISPECTIONS IN THE LOWER DIGESTIVES SYSTEM

Done to obtain tissue samples and take measurements.

The doctor explored anus with a finger. They took specimens from anus with a tube. They inspected the girls through anus high up with a flexible scope. Anal biopsy and biopsy from sigmoid and large bowel.



ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

The girls had breathing tube, IVs into blood vessels, electrodes on body. They had catheter into bladder left to recovery ward, catheter in situ as protocol following biopsy of bladder. The parents took them home the next day.


THE SCHOOL THE GIRLS ATTENED

I attended ordinary daytime school. Was regular state funded schools used.


COMMENTS

This ordeal follows a protocol used for health screening and health statistics on selected kids in selected communities in great parts of the world. The protocoll has a fairly long history, and is still going on, especially in North America, but this testamonial and others tells that Eastern Europe is a part of the enterprize.

There are testamonials about the protocoll both from North America, South America, Asia, Western Europe and Eastern Europe, and the political state of the comunteies does not seem to influence the protocoll, which poonts to some international coordination, probably through the United Nations system.



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Girl, 13yo, Russia, extensive pelvic focused development and health check

I am female. It happened in Russia, 1980-1989, 13 years old. My parents received a letter saying I was to report to the clinic for a full health exam. This is all we were told. I went there alone by myself. At a health center. It happened to all children of the age group in ny community.

PREPARATION, ANESTHESIA AND PRELIMINARY EXAM

The letter said I was to wear just a coat and nothing else. It also instructed me not to eat after noon the previous day.

As soon as I arrived outside the building my coat was quickly taken from me leaving me totally nude and I was led to a line of other naked children (boys and girls) and from then I was totally naked through the whole ordeal.

We were weighed (the nurses tutted at me for having shoes and took them off) and then I was taken into the examination room.

I got laxatives to clean out my stomach at the place where the exam took place. They washed my body before the exam. I also got a traditional enema before the exam to clean out my stomach, and stomach was cleaned out by a tube incerted into my anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine.


Parts of my body got numbed by a shot with a syringe. I got lubricating and numbing cream into my vagina. I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my anus. The anesthesia only took away pain.

There were multiple times I was to change position on the table as I was examined. I was placed to lay on my back with streight legs. I was also placed to lay on my stomack with streight legs. I was placed to lay on my right and also on my left side


PHYSICAL TESTING

After the table examination I was instructed to do a variety of exercises running jumping jacks situps all til I was completely exhausted. I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when ECG and breathing analysis was performed.


RADIOLOGIC EXAMINATIONS

After that they led me to a room like a studio and put a protective mask over my eyes so they could do x-ray pictures of me. I heard others there with me (I think other kids) but we were asked not to talk. They took chest x-ray pictures. They took x-ray pictures of my hip area.


INSPECTIONS WITH INSTRUMENTS INSERTED INTO BODY OPENINGS

They used a speculum in my vagina. They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope. The doctor explored my vagina with a finger. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.

After using it in my vagina they took the speculum out and put it in my mouth to look inside my throat. I asked if that should be and they said you put your fingers in your mouth after touching yourself don't you? it's fine

They went on for a long time. The door to the room was open and many people came in and out including other children.


ARRANGEMRNTS AFTER THE EXAM

I had catheter into my bladder. They drained my bladder completely with the catheter. Had me stay nude in the waiting area for close to an hour afterwards. Only then was my coat given back and I was hurried outside before I could put it back on. They gave me back the wrong shoes (did not fit) and no socks so I had to go home barefoot. I had walked there so I walked back. I attended ordinary daytime school. It was a regular school.


COMMENTS


Basically this is acomprehensive health and development check performed according to a standardized procedure in selected communities in all parts of the world. It still happens and even more than before. The main purpose of the procedure when done on healthy children is surveillance and research on the young population. But it is also used for check of individual children that the authorities are concerned about.

Due to the techical development this protocol now usually also include scoping of the urinary system and colon, and is often done under general anesthesia, so that the kid is not fully aware of what is done always. I suspect some kind of such scoping was done here also, but it is difficult to remembereverything or discern one thing form another.

There is not always a good quality controle about how the staff behaves during these ordeals, which can make them feel free to twist the procedure in ways for own sexual gratification and fun, which seem to be the case here. Also whwn many children are included one will often reduce privacy to spare time.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_unformation.htm



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Boy, 12yo, Cystoscopy and anal inspection for urinary infection

I had cystoscopy - I am male.This was my first.The exam took place in North America. Houston Texas. 12 years old. Years 1970-1979. Cystoscopy occured in a hospital.Parents said something like: The doctor shall look at you down in your stomach.

PREPARATIONS:

Had to stop eating several hours before the cystoscopy. Had to undress completely and go to bed. Got a hospital gown before going to bed. The nurse had me get on a gurney and she pushed me down the hall to a special room on a different floor. The whole bed was rolled with me/she/he upon when the time for the exam had come. Got to a special preparation room.


Given enema during preparations.Taken vitals like temperature heart rate and blood pressure. Nurse noted to the doctor that I had pubic hair and he told her to save it off She got some soap and lathered up my pubic area and shaved off the hair.

God lubricating and pain-killing fluid inserted in through the pee-hole. Got a shot to calm down and make sleepy.

Was totally naked during exam. Lay on back with legs in stirrups. When I got into the room they scooted me onto a big table and took off my gown so I was completely naked. They hooked me up with various wires The nurse swabbed my penis and groin with iodine which stung.

HOW THE EXAM IS REMEMBERED

They put a rigid stick-like cystoscope in through the urethra.They pumped up and irrigated bladder with water when looking inside.

After the cystoscopy they put a catheter in my urethra which was hooked to a bag.

They inspected anus with a scope.Rolled me on my side with leg bent They stuck a metal tube up my anus It hurt
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ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

Had catheter in the bladder some time after the exam. Had to stay in bed more that a day after the exam.

I had the catheter for two days and could only wear a gown I was in the hospital two more days and could wear pajamas I got shots twice a day while I was there They took urine samples daily


DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UP

Diagnosis - urinary infection. Got mediaction for infection. Had to have a cathetherization routine.


REASON AND JUDGEMENT

The reason was problems with urination. It was painful.It was humiliating or awful, but still it It was useful.

COMMENTS

It is standard recommendation in many sources that all boys wich has had symptoms of urinary infection shall have cystosopy. Even though it is seldome told about in public information, the anus, lower colon or the whole colon is nearly always inspected at the same event or a close event.

The story does not tell if the boy had such symptoms or that the indection got detected by the exam.

The age of 12 is a very common age for boys to have their first cystosocpy. It is possible that this community did this procedure on all boys of that age, or on all boys that had a history of health problems, and that the infection was just detected by the cystosopy. Possibly this also happened to girls.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

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