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Date Posted: 05:39:42 05/22/06 Mon
Author: Walter Del Pellegrino
Author Host/IP: vpn.merrimacind.com / 12.3.243.9
Subject: Re: JOHN WILSON BOYCOTT 1972
In reply to: HENRY JONES 's message, "JOHN WILSON BOYCOTT 1972" on 08:13:56 08/19/04 Thu

I was one of those parents who had been there from the beginning. We all knew that we would never win the battle to stop the deliberate destruction of neighborhoods but we took the streets in any case. Had we won that battle Canarsie would be a very different place than it is today.

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[> [> Re: JOHN WILSON BOYCOTT 1972 -- Henry Hernandez, 15:28:19 05/21/07 Mon (ool-182e6e6c.dyn.optonline.net/24.46.110.108)

>I was one of those parents who had been there from the
>beginning. We all knew that we would never win the
>battle to stop the deliberate destruction of
>neighborhoods but we took the streets in any case. Had
>we won that battle Canarsie would be a very different
>place than it is today.

Thats so nice of you to say.A couple of buses of kids destroyed Canarsie?Give me a break.How about when your Italian immigrant relatives came here and the same thing happened to them would you like it?

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[> [> [> Re: JOHN WILSON BOYCOTT 1972 -- Italian Immigrant, 08:47:53 06/08/07 Fri (pool-141-157-205-180.ny325.east.verizon.net/141.157.205.180)


>Thats so nice of you to say.A couple of buses of kids
>destroyed Canarsie?Give me a break.How about when your
>Italian immigrant relatives came here and the same
>thing happened to them would you like it?

PLEASE! When other immigrants came here(of all races) we came to work and make something of ourselves.We came for a better life not a FREE RIDE! Take a look around Canarsie now. OPEN YOUR EYES...Its shame. Its filthy and crime ridden. Anyone that denies this is a liar to themselves and everyone else. Ever notice why no one wants to live in areas like this? Its because you get the low class street thugs that expect the world owes them everything moving in to nice areas and ruining it with their uneducated warped thought process. It a shame! The house values, business and community go down the toilet. Why is it that if areas like canarsie are still so nice you don't stay there? Stay there go to school there and stop trying to get into better places. In a few years you will just ruin these areas too!
If you feel Canarsie was not ruined by the kids bused in and the trash that moved in then stay in the great neighborhood that canarsie has become. Why does everyone feel that we muct all get along and live together. Human nature make us wan tto stay with our own kind and we shold leave it like that. Take look at nature. The forests and oceans are filled with species that all stay with their own kind and protect their own. That is the way it should be and we would all get along better. But then again, al sharpton would start crying that the nicer areas are getting better treatment because they are not Black. It hopeless!

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[> [> [> [> Re: JOHN WILSON BOYCOTT 1972 -- JM (:-(), 09:45:58 08/27/09 Thu (74-202-51-11.static.twtelecom.net/74.202.51.11)

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>>Thats so nice of you to say.A couple of buses of kids
>>destroyed Canarsie?Give me a break.How about when your
>>Italian immigrant relatives came here and the same
>>thing happened to them would you like it?
>
>PLEASE! When other immigrants came here(of all races)
>we came to work and make something of ourselves.We
>came for a better life not a FREE RIDE! Take a look
>around Canarsie now. OPEN YOUR EYES...Its shame. Its
>filthy and crime ridden. Anyone that denies this is a
>liar to themselves and everyone else. Ever notice why
>no one wants to live in areas like this? Its because
>you get the low class street thugs that expect the
>world owes them everything moving in to nice areas and
>ruining it with their uneducated warped thought
>process. It a shame! The house values, business and
>community go down the toilet. Why is it that if areas
>like canarsie are still so nice you don't stay there?
>Stay there go to school there and stop trying to get
>into better places. In a few years you will just ruin
>these areas too!
>If you feel Canarsie was not ruined by the kids bused
>in and the trash that moved in then stay in the great
>neighborhood that canarsie has become. Why does
>everyone feel that we muct all get along and live
>together. Human nature make us wan tto stay with our
>own kind and we shold leave it like that. Take look at
>nature. The forests and oceans are filled with species
>that all stay with their own kind and protect their
>own. That is the way it should be and we would all
>get along better. But then again, al sharpton would
>start crying that the nicer areas are getting better
>treatment because they are not Black. It hopeless!

I'm hispanic and I grew up in that neighborhood in the projects when they were nice. As far as people sticking with their own kind, well - the projects back then were a mixture of all races and religions - all working families trying to get on their feet. My neighbor and best friend was an Italian immigrant another came from Germany's concentration camp. Although I don't agree that people (nice hard-working people) can't live in a diverse community, I do have to agree with you about the bussing. That was when everything went down hill. The reason, I think, is because they weren't selective in who they bused in. Everyone should be entitled to a good education - providing they want one. I don't think you should bus troubled kids into a good neighborhood - only those who maintain a certain grade average should be allowed to go to a good school - regardless of their color. Unfortunately, that's not what they did. They sent trouble-making "ghetto" blacks rather than the good ones that actually wanted to learn so that they can give a better life to their future generation (and please don't say that there aren't any good ones because there are!) In my opinion, the way they did it ruined it for the neighborhood and help feed the typical black stereotyping.

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