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Date Posted: 00:16:49 01/08/04 Thu
There are serious problem with having a disccusion group on the website. If the members pay money to be on the website, how can you ban them from using the discussion group? If you can't ban them or moderate what goes in, you can't control it at all.
***Al - The problem is borne out of worrying what paying members think. Of all places that I would least expect anyone to worry about what paying members think, it would be the FHU....I can attest to you that I have thrown boorish people out of my gas stations on several occasions for being drunk, rude, possibly violent towards another customer etc...any business needs new clients..but a business doesnt want *all* new business. You *can* moderate them..in fact good people LOVE good moderation. SO while i understand the point you are attempting. I do not agree that it is valid. I say give back the money..in fact Roy himself has given donation money back...that would not be anything new.***
Merv: That is fine. Roy might want to give back the money. Still he has a problem. The website has alienated a customer and lost a buck, and money matters. Roy is always looking for it because he needs it. I can't help but think like a business man. :) The person who pays $60 a year will think he has a right to post on the discussion board. That is probably why the chat room is now outside the pay area. They can kick you off without thinking about it.
When you ban a paying member or stop his posts from going in, you are going to create an enemy who wants his money back. That is fine but it is still a problem.
Roy wants to attract new people in order to get the information about the meditation out. There are people entering the website from all parts of the world now. If the main drift of the meditation is to give up anger and resentment, how does a board with angry people trying to bash one another over the head with the truth come in?
***Al - clear minded people see through everything...and what you are declaring could also be said of his radio program....he moderates it himself and with a call screener....so it can be done...basically it was left like this..hey you office folks just check in once in awhile. Imagine Roy's radio program being run like this....there are ten phone lines...everyone can talk at once and essentially say anything they want....what would happen? You have employees...you are a moderator of sorts..you have to provide direction for the greater good. You know it can be done***
Merv: If people wers so clear minded they would not be seeking help from Roy. Yes it can be done but it would take a lot of moderation on the pay board and that would cause problems as I said. You would have to step in every time you thought someone was being too aggressive or jumping to conclusions because if you let one person be too aggressive you have to let the other one respond in kind, and they would do that. When you moderate them they will not agree with you. They would say they were just making a point, standing up for principles, or correcting a wrong. Bad feelings would result from it. You may say the Foundation should not care, but it is still a business of sorts trying to make the customers happy to some degree, and there is no need to create problems when it is not necessary....especially problems that keep coming back. :)
Overall, it is a difficult situation for those who run the website. I can understand why Roy was hesitant to get into it and why he shut it down. He simply wants to get the word out to the world if possible and anything that does not further that goal and may work the other way is something to be concerned about. Without it he has one less problem.
***Al _ Agreed one less problem(self created)...but I would weigh that against the benefits that many experienced by knowing other meditators...I benefit by knowing you for instance..there is a confidence factor in knowing you are not alone......anyway I value your thoughts..I just do not see eye to eye with you on this. ***
Merv: Ok. We don't have to all agree. :) You can know other meditators off the web site board also. I am saying it makes problems for Roy that he has to deal with. If he thinks the value outweighs the problems, he should have it. If not, he may go another way or put the discussion board in the non pay area. That would solve some problems because you could throw off the offenders without being concerned about what they paid for, but it would not help the PR problems with the newcomers if the people tend to misbehave. Roy is trying to get the word out to the world....his words, not necessarily ours. :)
Merv: It all depends on what Roy wants for the board. What does he want?
Merv: It seems like a similar problem to the one Roy has always had regarding getting people together. He tried it some years ago but stopped after he found that they were forming groups with strong leaders and weak followers and the end result was not good as Roy saw it.
Merv: Roy could probably make a lot of money right now if he would give lectures designed to get singles together like Dennis Praeger does.....and maybe he should do that because I think there are many singles that would want it. He has always avoided it up to this point.
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