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Date Posted: 07:54:35 02/24/04 Tue
Author: Derek Meilaender
Subject: Trips

Once we get into teaching wee little music students, the day will come when we have an opportunity to see other groups perform nearby. Too often children skip an opportunity to see somebody like STOMP or the Boston Pops Orchestra because it costs too much. Are there any positive effects in seeing a performance such as that? And should we, as future teachers, request that the school provide money for at least one field trip a year instead of asking the students to pay on their own?

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[> Re: Trips -- Ryann Angelotti, 17:59:49 02/24/04 Tue [1]

>Once we get into teaching wee little music students,
>the day will come when we have an opportunity to see
>other groups perform nearby. Too often children skip
>an opportunity to see somebody like STOMP or the
>Boston Pops Orchestra because it costs too much. Are
>there any positive effects in seeing a performance
>such as that? And should we, as future teachers,
>request that the school provide money for at least one
>field trip a year instead of asking the students to
>pay on their own?

Derek,
I think this is a wonderful idea! Students need to be aware of the other musical experiences going on in their area. One thing to think about, if you have an elementary/junior high group would be to take them to see high school performances. Usually those performances are free, and the elementary school children should find them enjoyable. I wonder if there is a way for any type of travelling professional group to come to your school? I think the Cleveland Opera has a group of people who specifically come to schools to perform. Something to look into...

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[> Re: Trips -- Brittany, 22:13:19 02/24/04 Tue [1]

>Once we get into teaching wee little music students,
>the day will come when we have an opportunity to see
>other groups perform nearby. Too often children skip
>an opportunity to see somebody like STOMP or the
>Boston Pops Orchestra because it costs too much. Are
>there any positive effects in seeing a performance
>such as that? And should we, as future teachers,
>request that the school provide money for at least one
>field trip a year instead of asking the students to
>pay on their own?


You might also want to have the local high school band, orchestra and/or choir come and perform for the younger students. This might help to get them involved in one of these activities down the road! :)

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[> Re: Trips -- Jeff Phillips, 08:27:39 02/25/04 Wed [1]

Derek,
Providing your young music students with opportunities to hear musical events 'live' will have a positive effect such as increased interest, enthusiasm and enjoyment of music. If you are an Elementary music teacher, contact your high school/middle school band director for possible interest. My eigth grade band did a Christmas Tour of three elementaries that went over extremely well. It was beneficial for both those who were participating and those who were listening. Later this spring my High School Percussion Ensemble will be touring all five elementaries.
As far as getting any type of financial help from your district to see such events as 'Blast', it may be difficult. Many districts are having money problems. You may take the money out of a fundraiser account to help offset the cost, or you can try and write a grant. Hope this helps.

JP

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[> [> Re: Trips -- Phil Payne, 10:34:53 01/30/06 Mon [1]

Personally I think trips are excellent for students, especially if you get to perform at the place you go to. When I was in high school our marching band went to California and performed in the nationally televised Hollywood Christmas Parade and also at the Hollywood Bowl Battle of the Bands. It was a great experience to see the different bands from around the country. We were still by far the most unique band there. Everyone in the band had an amazing time. It still is at this point, my best musical experience that I have had in my life. This parade was five miles long but when you have adrenaline running through you from the three million people around you cheering you on and imitating what you do you get this great feeling inside of you. Trips are needed especially if you are one of the performers. They give a different feeling on what other people you don't know think and I think the make you feeling even better about you abilities if you do well.

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[> Re: Trips -- Honoree Pouly, 17:55:35 02/15/06 Wed [1]

I think it is such a great experience for young children interested in music to be able to go and see other people perform. I think it motivates them and gives them a point to reach. When I was in High School, we had a concert where we had the High School band and the elementary bands collaborate to do a show together. It might be a good idea to not even have a concert, but have some people from the High School come in and interact with the elementary students. They could just go through the rehearsal process with them, and play a few songs with them. I know when I was in elementary the people I most looked up to were the high school students, so this may be a good idea to try out.

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[> Re: Trips -- Rita, 21:01:54 02/19/06 Sun [1]

It's incredibly important to give the students an opportunity to see other musical groups outside of thier own... They need a chance to see how the music they are making relates in "real life". Besides, you never know when something make strike the right place in your child that alters thier life musically.

I know that some Ohio schools have a program called "Muse Machine" that schools can be a part of. It's free for a school to join, and then each student pays an enrollment fee (which I believe is $20) and works with area companies to offers really cheap tickets to students (and they aren't just sticking them in the back row they get decent seats!) Tickets usually are under $20, students decide which ones they want to go to, and are getting the chance to see things professionally done! And, they aren't just therater events, they are all types of groups. Plus,by the school being a member they also get opportunities to bring in traveling groups associated with Muse Machine to perform at thier school. By being a member of the group, I was able to see so many productions that I wouldn't have been able to without going broke and worrying about how I would get there. I just signed up, payed my ticket price (usually about $10), and rode school transportation there and back...

I'm not sure of other states have something similar, but I know that parts of Ohio does. When I was a member of the group in high school we went and saw a lot of things in Dayton and Columbus...

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[> [> Re: Trips -- cheryl, 09:00:53 10/06/06 Fri [1]

I know that the Chicago Symphony and the St. Louis Symphony used to offer "kinder concerts". Students of all ages were brought in to listen to/watch the final dress rehearsal before a concert. These were usually in the early afternoon, during school hours. There was no cost to the student. The only cost to the school was for transportation of the students.
This was between 1978 and 1984. I do not know if this type of concert is still available. It would be worth it to find out if it is.

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[> Re: Trips -- Chad B, 10:24:36 02/07/07 Wed [1]

I definitely feel that there is much to gain from observing a "higher" band, especially for elementary school children. At that level, I think it would be great to have them viewing junior and high school level bands because it is nearest to their own level. From this, they can see what they are building up to; what to look forward to. I do think that schools should be responsible in paying for music students to attend an event or two each year to augment their students' musical experience. The benefit is directed at the students, as it should be.

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[> Re: Trips -- Amanda Jasko, 16:48:16 05/08/07 Tue [1]

I think there are a lot of benefits of seeing a higher level band. It gives them motivation, and can inspire them to one day to be a musician. Although I am all for the idea, I don't think that schools have the resources to give money to students to go to these performances.

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[> Re: Trips -- Brian B., 20:19:31 05/08/07 Tue [1]

I agree with Chad in the sense that it gives elementary students something to look up to. (There are many sixth graders that have crushes on me because of my involvement in the musicals.) It is also very important for high schools, more so in smaller schools, to be exposed to different types of music at a higher level than they are used to. This will not only broaden their knowledge of different types of music but also their appreciation.

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