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Date Posted: 09:37:30 12/15/04 Wed
Author: Chris
Subject: Re: Used as a justification
In reply to: Mike K. 's message, "Used as a justification" on 08:55:24 12/15/04 Wed

Anyway, I think it is helpful for many unbelivers to know that even many scientists find the idea that there is a creator - whoever - much more sensible than the idea of a random creation out of nothing.

Many ordinary people believe they are up-to-date and scientific when they say everything has a physical explanation and cause (causal principle) and could theoretically be calculated by a large enough computer. That idea was an interesting speculation at the time of Laplace, by Quantum Mechanics and Chaos Theory have disproved the idea already. Interestingly, even in Mathematics there are always mathematical statements that cannot be proven, you can only chose to believe them or not. That's the famous Goedel theorem. What ordinary people think is a "scientific" world view (Weltanschauung) is in fact not scientic from today's understanding and discoveries in modern science. It was scientific 300 years ago.

Science and philosophy can be helpful to open your mind for the idea that there is indeed a creator. The beauty of nature and the wonder of life can do the same.

But Mike is right that all of this does not tell us about all the aspects of God that have to do with moral, sin, holyness, justness, right and wrong, and they also do not tell us how God relates to us (does he love us, does he even care about us)? It does not answer many "why" questions.

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