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- show window required outlet -- Eric Moore, 11:01 12/16/11 Fri [2]
Two windows in a retail space. Each window is 4 ft. with 2 ft. between them. These are the only windows in the reception area on the road side of the space. No other outlets on the wall near the window. Is a show window outlet required? Opinions?
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- grounding electrode conductor -- Joe Smith, 06:58 06/25/12 Mon [1]
310.4 does not list GEC as being used in parallel. This question was answered at the summer meeting that it was pemitted.
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- Motor Circuit Protector -- Howard Soli, 19:08 04/19/11 Tue [1]
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- 1956 PA 217 -- Mike Worswick, 12:30 06/05/06 Mon [3]
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- 2008 NEC -- Brian Kiley, 05:52 07/25/08 Fri [1]
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Ohio Home Builders Fight 2008 NEC Adoption
The 2008 NEC was adopted by the Ohio Board of Building Standards (OBBS) and went into effect on January 1 of this year, but the Ohio Home Builders Association (OHBA) asked the state's governor, Ted Strickland, to sign an emergency order to temporarily rescind the use of the 2008 NEC for one-, two-, and three-family dwellings. Gov. Strickland signed the order on March 31, immediately reverting back to the 2005 NEC. This emergency order was valid for a period not to exceed 90 days, which was June 29, 2008.
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- What is an inspector to do? -- Bob France, 16:21 12/03/07 Mon [3]
Does an electrical inspector, acting in his jurisdiction,have the right to suggest to a homeowner to pull the edison meter from its stabs himself in order that the homeowner can work more safely correcting a violation (feeder conductors terminating with service entrance conductors at the supply side of the main lugs in the service panel)? Does the inspector need the permission of the utility?
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- primary service -- dennis cassady, 16:30 10/27/07 Sat [1]
new client owned primary service has unlisted primary switch for voltage boost from 12470 to 13800 volts using a separate single phase transformer for each leg. Gangable switch on one end of enclosure fuses with parking stand on other end of enclosure. Wire feeds from load side of switch out through transformers back through fuses in primary switch. Apparently a three phase buck and boost was not available. I welcome any input not sure about this installation.
Thanks Denny
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- 1956 PA 217 -- Thomas Kriegish, 19:02 09/08/05 Thu [4]
A proposed amendment to Section 7 of the act would exempt an industrial manufacturing facility (GM,Ford,Chrysler,etc) from using licensed personel to install wiring and equipment on their premises as long as they are supervised by a master electrician. This proposal is from State Senator Raymond E. Basham.
The draft has a bill request number of 03966'05
I'll try to keep you updated!
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- Code Update Course.. -- Hal Richmond, 07:42 08/21/07 Tue [2]
The state is presently adopting the Michigan Electrical Code. (It is at the SOS office). This will require licensed electricians to obtain 15 hours of Code Update to renew their license for 2009. If and when the Michigan Residential Code is adopted will there be another requirement for an educational update on electrical changes in this Code?
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- GFCI Ptrotection Required?? -- Phil Clark, 13:10 07/25/07 Wed [3]
A situation came up recently which is a puzzler...a cafe has an outdoor seating section, and scattered through the space are 120 voltreceptacles. Apparently the receptacles are there for 'convenience use" (lights,p.a., etc). The boxes are mounted on "stub-ups", the devices are standard receptacles.
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The receptacles are not GFCI protected, and I couldn't find anything in 210.8 requiring that protection.
Any thoughts?
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- Replacement receptacles -- Hal Richmond, 07:44 08/09/07 Thu [2]
The Michigan electrical code would allow the installation of a GFCI type receptacle in lieu of having to replace a three wire type that is not grounded. The Michigan residential code has no provisions for this allowance and in the appendix there is specific language that three wire receptacles must be grounded or replaced with a two-wire type. Am i correct in understanding that here in Michigan we are no longer allowed to install a GFCI device to protect a three-wire receptacle that is not grounded and these must be grounded or replaced with a two-wire type??
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- Michigan Code Adoption -- Dave Williams, 07:13 06/12/07 Tue [1]
It looks like the electrical industry is another step closer to adopting a new code. Michigan is on the 2002 Code and the nation is getting very close to the 2008 Adoption. NFPA had their annual meeting last week and the 2008 NEC is right around the corner. The 2005 NEC was published 33 months ago and only 3 months away from the 2008. Michigan is still on the 2002 code.
We can sit and complain or try to do something about it. The Michigan Chapter is going to work on this but we need your help. We have asked for your help on other issues and had a somewhat warm response. It is time to get involved and not just sit back. It may get us nowhere, but let's give it our best shot.
Send me a note if you are interested in helping us bring Michigan out of the daark ages and into a real code cycle.
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- running nmc or uf in conduit -- chris, 07:38 03/14/07 Wed [2]
i was wondering if it was legal to run nmc or uf cable completely through conduit.
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- Supply pipe bonding -- Rick Bowling, 13:23 09/12/06 Tue [2]
I'm a private home inspector and just looked at a new construction home which is plumbed mostly with non-conductive PEX piping but has copper risers.
I'm wondering what you folks think about the applicability of the bonding requirements (E3509.6, etc.)for metal water piping in this scenario. There is at least one place where NM runs accross one of the copper risers.
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- dust collector for cardboard chipper bailer -- Dennis Cassady, 14:29 03/06/07 Tue [2]
The bags/filters have been moved outside. Is the hopper area considered to be any kind of hazardous area. This machine consist of three blower's to retrieve scrap which drops through a hopper to a bailer. Dust is vented directly outside until a new filter system is purchased.
What do I do with this installation???
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- mc cable -- Tony Zielinski, 18:55 02/13/07 Tue [2]
Is there a code referance that would prohibit me from using
mc cable on a furnace or a boiler in a regular wiring installation in either residential or commercial
applications.
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- electrical expert -- Alyssa Moss, 13:47 06/01/06 Thu [1]
We are looking for an expert to inspect the wiring in a home that was severely damaged by an ozone generator and assess the current capacity of the electrical system. If anyone is interested please call 248-357-3550 or email. thanks.
Alyssa Moss, Esq.
Eisenberg, Benson & Fields, PLLC
2000 Town Center, Ste. 1780
Southfield, MI 48075
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- Most impressive -- Ryan Jackson, 20:27 02/10/06 Fri [2]
I just wanted to pop in and say what A great site you guys have here. I am the second VP for the Utah Chapter of IAEI, and I must say that the work your chapter is doing and the dedication and involvement of your board is very impressive.
By the way: Hi Dave, I hope you are doing well.
Ryan Jackson
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- Dwelling units -- John, 10:47 01/16/06 Mon [1]
The MRC defines a duplex as a building consisting of two dwelling units. Article E3501.2 states that a dwelling unit shall be supplied by only one service. Does this mean that each dwelling unit can have it's own service without a disconnecting means grouped with the other?
The NEC Artice 230.2 states a building with one service not a dwelling.
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- Fire Wall Box Spacing -- Rick Thomas, 12:05 01/03/06 Tue [2]
Is this an NEC rquirent or Building requirment:
Boxes installed in a fire wall must be 24" apart if they are installed on oppisite sides of the wall.
If it is an NEC requiremnt does anyone have the code reference?
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- single family? -- JDR, 15:02 12/09/05 Fri [3]
a homeowner lives in half of a duplex, can he do electrical work in the half that he lives in?
I guess what I'm asking is: Can his half be considered a single family dwelling. This does happen in other trades.
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- multifamily permits -- John DeRochey, 13:56 05/03/05 Tue [5]
Just interested to see how others handle this situation.
Example: A new 4-unit Condo. Would you issue one or four
permits.
Thanks
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- Mechanical Contractors doing Electrical Work -- Randy Bates, 05:49 08/22/05 Mon [1]
The fact that Mechanical Contractors apparently don't understand what "load side of the unit disconnect" means in the language of the Public Act, shows their lack of electrical knowledge is limited at best and dangerous at worst.
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- bonding -- tony zielinski, 06:17 08/19/05 Fri [1]
new room with hot tub before they pour floor with cement they have rebar down should that be bonded to room since we know a hot tub will be installed. also what are thoughts on floor outlets in a room with a hot tub, i find nothing in code to say i cant have a floor oultlet yet some of u guys say i cant in a room with a hot tub.
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- Bonding Conductor for a hydromassage bathtub -- Dave Williams, 10:34 12/23/04 Thu [8]
At the December meeting there was a question during the code panel asking if the bonding conductor could be a 8 AWG stranded conductor or does it need to be a solid conductor. Tom Lichtenstein stated that section 680.74 requires the conductor needs to be copper and not smaller than 8 AWG solid. I just wanted to get other thoughts.
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- Is there a code section for this??? -- Dave Williams, 22:30 01/06/05 Thu [7]
Contractor upgraded and relocated the service panel into a crawl space. The height of the workspace from the clay crawl floor was about four and a half feet. Contractor was told to provide the proper headroom. I went there today and the contractor had dug down two feet in front of the panel four feet by four feet. The problem now is you have about a foot of water in the hole. In order to examine or work on the panel you have to have your waders on.
Any code sections?
If I wait and let the hole file in than I think article 680 will apply.
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- Underground Service Warning Ribbon -- Rick Thomas, 09:27 07/25/05 Mon [1]
since most underground services are installed by DTE and usually covered without inspection, how do we enforce the installation of the required warning ribbon. MRC E3703.2
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- NEC 2002 Article 334 -- Brian Kiley, 06:19 06/02/05 Thu [2]
There seems to be a lot of confusion about article 334 Nonmetallic-sheathed Cable. Specifically Article 334.10 uses permitted, and article 334.12 uses not permitted.
After several conversations about this subject, it appears that there are different interpretations of the intent of the code. As I read the code it appears as though romex can be put in multifamily dwellings in the following types I,II,III,IV, and V. There are inspectors that disagree with this statment. It is my understanding that the intent of the code for uses permitted, is not all inclusive. When it states uses not permitted it is all inclusive. That being said, there is no place in the code that excludes me from using Nonmetallic-sheathed cable in type I, and type II buildings. When NFPA was asked to provide an official interpretation, the statement was made the the intent is very clear. Nonmetallic-sheathed cable is not restricted from being used in type I, and type II buildings.
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- art. 517.30(c) mechanical protection of emergency systems -- rick thomas, 11:06 03/21/05 Mon [1]
can light fixtures on the emergency system be wired with type MC Cable?
exception 5 references flexible connections for equipment, but not lighting fixtures.
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- distance learning -- Mike Butzke, 15:03 03/16/05 Wed [1]
Are there any places availible for distance learning? Due to medical reasons, I've gotten behind and need some speciallty and plan review hours.
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- Square D position on AFCI -- Gordon Deisler, 08:54 02/10/05 Thu [1]
Do you agree that the UL listing of the AFCI is enough to say the circut is intact?
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- Septic tank lift pump -- George H. Little, 01:39 01/07/05 Fri [3]
Are there any special requirements for wiring a lift pump associated with a pressure sewer in a residential setting? I have heard of inspectors requiring the wiring to comply with Article 500, Classified Locations.
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