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Date Posted: 14:33:02 04/12/14 Sat
Author: Martian Barb
Subject: I totally agree, Chris. Since last week, there have been so many more reports of students bringing knives to school, just in the Pittsburgh area. Where are the parents....
In reply to: Martian Barb 's message, "Prayer Request" on 17:08:19 04/11/14 Fri

I know that is a silly question coming from a person who works with single moms and moms who have multiple children with multiple partners. I don't mean to be insulting to anyone on this board, but most of the trouble coming from the schools in this area are from the inner city where there isn't much support at home. It truly is sad.

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[> [> What is sad to me is that whole generations of kids are growing up with a fortress mentality, filled with fear, I know there are many theories, and I'm not challenging any of them. I just look back at the freedom I had even in elementary school, to get on public transportation by myself, free to roam the parks, happy at my schools with no interference from parents. Was it idyllic? Of course not. But I never had to worry about drugs, guns, or knives, and I learned independance and the ability to handle problems. (inside) -- Cece, 15:12:47 04/12/14 Sat [1]

I grew up in an industrial city in England, with food and clothes but no extras. But I was lucky I had wonderful parents, and a father who would not tolerate bad behaviour or bad manners. He'd scare grown men, yet he never used physical punishment on his 8 children. He didn't have to. He was very strict, but he was also loving, careing, and good.

Some children today have every toy and piece of technology available,and cars to take them everywhere. Others live with indifferent or abusive parents, and barely have food. It doesn't seem to matter what their background. The shooters and stabbers seem to come from all classes. I have NO idea what is the answer to the problem, if any. Maybe instilling in them as small children, a knowledge of right and wrong, a sense of responsibility, respect for others, and pride in who they are. Oh and maybe parenting lessons wouldn't go amiss to those who have little or no experience or knowledge about bringing up children, or what to expect.

Easy for me to say. I have no children. But I have seen my 7 siblings and their spouses bring up my 19 nieces and nephews, and they in turn are bringing up my 34 great nieces and nephews. I am proud to say that not one of the (now) adults has been in trouble and the little kids and teens are doing well so far. So....crossing my fingers it stays that way.

Finally, my heart goes out to parents who do everything they can to protect their children, not knowing if the horror is going to be repeated, yet again, at their schools. Sad indeed.

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[> [> today's children are being raised in daycare. Most of their parents were raised in daycare. I cringe at the small percent of population who have a fulltime parental upbringing during the early formative years. Of course I cringe at small things like a four year old calling me by my first name. That to me is the first step of no concept of respect for others during those formative years. -- chris k, 06:49:05 04/13/14 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> I agree with you. It isn't a small thing to me. Respect is shown in many, symbolic ways, which is why we call our parents Mum and Dad etc., not Edith and Archie. But gosh, even in the work place, every barrier is down. Soon, we'll be calling the President, Barack or Yo Dude! I'm not saying adults have to be cold to children, but as you say, politeness is the first step. As my father used to say, good manners is all about careing for the comfort of others. Respect. -- Cece, 08:59:05 04/13/14 Sun [1]

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