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Date Posted: 03:29:57 09/28/16 Wed
Author: Emma Shannon
Subject: Re: St Gilbert's, Hartlebury, Worcs
In reply to: john delaney 's message, "Re: St Gilbert's, Hartlebury, Worcs" on 03:01:28 09/02/14 Tue

>Yes I remember your Dad, he was a good man he and
>several of the civilian staff were like that bit of
>air left at the top of the hull in a sinking ship that
>woul save you life regretfully for a few they couldnt
>swim up to it because of those EVIL BASTARDS the St
>Delasel monks MONKS be F..... them and their
>supporters. Local Police And local Councillors and so
>called Local Dignitaries All dirty B....... Sorry I
>have to say this but in reality you dDad must have
>known what was going on so ?>Hi My Dad was Mr Temple,
>does anyone remember him I
>>was only 10 when the accident happened
>>>Hi I was sent to St Gilbert`s in about 1960-61. It
>was
>>>run by the De La Salle Brothers. At that time a
>>>Brother Joseph was the headmaster. There were various
>>>members off staff who were not in the order and
>>>consequently they treated the children much better,ie
>>>Jim Wittle, Brian Selby Mr Temple{sadly killed in
>>>Snowdonia) Mr Hopely and, Mr Donnelly, who all lived
>>>in houses along the avenue along with the
>>>priest.Anyone who was there at this time knows how
>bad
>>>this and similar places run by religious orders were.
>>>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>>My father was at St Gilbert's Approved School,
>>>>>>>>Hartlebury, Worcs in the 1940s. He remembers it
>>>>>>being
>>>>>>>>run by the Christian Brothers but they deny
>>this.
>>>>>>>>Does anyone know how I can find out for certain
>>>who
>>>>>>>>ran it?
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>Lesley
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Lesley
>>>>>>>Good news. Therre are 18 'hits' at the National
>>>>>>>Archives (old Public Records Office) website for
>>>"St
>>>>>>>Gilbert's". It seems to have been based
>previously
>>>>in
>>>>>>>Suffolk and to have moved to Waresley House
>>>>>Hartlebury
>>>>>>>Worcs in 1944.
>>>>>>>To look up relevant items, go to
>>>>>>>www.nationalarchives.gov.uk then Search the
>>>>Catalogue
>>>>>>>(far left, towards the bottom, don't know why
>they
>>>>>>>hide it away down there!)- then just type in St
>>>>>>>Gilbert's -including the apostrophe.
>>>>>>>Click on the title of each item you're interested
>>>>in,
>>>>>>>then if you want even more information, click on
>>>the
>>>>>>>Full Details tab. However, you may find (as I
>>have)
>>>>>>>that many of the documents you'd like to see are
>>>>>>>closed for 75 years and not available to you
>until
>>>-
>>>>>>>in this case- 2018.
>>>>>>>Most, if not all, records relating to borstals
>and
>>>>>>>approved schools are 'exempt data' under the
>>>Freedom
>>>>>>>of Information Act. You can ask specifically for
>>>>>>>particular records to have either their 75 yr
>>>>closure
>>>>>>>status or their FoI exemption to be 'reviewed'
>but
>>>I
>>>>>>>wouldn't hold your breath!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm writing a dissertation about historic houses
>>in
>>>>>>>educ@tional use- hence my interest in Brandeston
>>>>>>>House, and how I came to find your 'cri de
>coeur'.
>>>>As
>>>>>>>an historic researcher by profession, I can offer
>>>>you
>>>>>>>lots of guidance on where else to look for
>>>>>information
>>>>>>>and would be happy to do so off-forum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Leslie,
>>>>>>It was indeed run by the Christian Brothers up
>>until
>>>>>>the late sixties when it became a state school
>>>>>>following the end of Approved Schools. I was there
>>>in
>>>>>>the late fifties.
>>>>>>I too have found it frustratingly difficult to
>find
>>>>>>information about the Brothers or the school as it
>>>>was
>>>>>>then.
>>>>>This school was run by the De Lasale Brothers not
>>>the
>>>>>Christian Brothers I was there in 61-62 and I am
>>>>>pleased to say they are all DEAD
>>>>my name is brian barrett and i was there in st
>>>>gilberts approved school in 1947 1954 and im sad to
>>>>hit this brick wall as im writing my book of my life
>>>>as im 70 now and have a 10 yr old son belive it or
>>not
>>>>and i would like to add this cruel and horrible
>place
>>>>in my book and its not anywere to be found can
>>anybody
>>>>tell me if i can view these hiden records u talk of
>>>>and tell me how i go about this thanks mr b barrett
>>>>liverpool
Just found out that my father was
Abused at St.Gilberts after he died
Last month. We are beyond shocked as
A family but it does explain his
Long battle with alcoholism and
Depression. We would like to stay
Informed on proceedings. I have
Spoken with the police and my father
Christopher Shannon has given a videostatement before he died :(

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