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Date Posted: 17:43:51 01/26/06 Thu
Author: lump
Subject: Re: I'm either retarded or phsyco!
In reply to: 23 's message, "Re: I'm either retarded or phsyco!" on 17:35:29 01/26/06 Thu

Oh, I think you have that Eve part all wrong.

The older the writings of the bible, the more and more anti-woman it gets. Our versions have been edited so distortingly and looked at so many times that they are not at ALL what they once were. From what I've read on the older bible stuff - it's definately negative. Like it's all the woman's fault. God didn't have anything to do with it.....which kinda creates a full circle of blaim doesn't it. Similar to the Koran, woman were dirty creatures not so above a pig. There's a great website on all this my Dad visits - I'll get it for you - much interesting reading there on these things.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: I'm either retarded or crazy! -- lump, 17:48:02 01/26/06 Thu [1]

sex

(I just wanted to break that up)

No really - I strike that about the Koran - that was someone else's words and I've never actually read it so I don't really know that for sure. But I'll still get you that website.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: I'm either retarded or crazy! -- Leo, 17:57:01 01/26/06 Thu [1]

this is in response to Jes, hope it doesn't get lost in the shuffle. although the iym/twan convo is certainly intriguing as well and i may have to reply to that later)

first, i'm sorry to hear about your parents, i think its tough on the children of a divorcing couple at any age.

now onto the roy business - there are a couple of things you said that were thoughts going through my head previously. I too was looking for an excuse to leave Rob, I found myself wishing he would cheat, even hit me, anything so I could kick his ass out. Now I realize, my own happiness, sanity and peace of mind is more than enough reason to want out of a relationship. Don't sell yourself short.

I also cried myself to sleep (and during other activities) that went completely unnoticed. I was miserable. If a guy loved his woman, how the fuck could he not notice she was crying? How the fuck could he not notice she's hanging on a thread? saying he loves you means shit in my book. I got told I was loved constantly, was sent flowers, given gifts, but never given the time of day, my thoughts and wants were never a priority. I hope the chick he's with now can be bought, cause I couldn't be. btw, he's getting married, lol, what an idiot.

Another thing you said that stuck out to me was the stranger comment. There were so many times I asked Rob to treat me like a stranger, cause that'd be much better.

do it for yourself jes and for nate, he deserves a happy mom too.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: I'm either retarded or phsyco! -- 23, 17:57:24 01/26/06 Thu [1]

I agree with what you're saying, lump, but I would say that is the specific cultural spin on the myth. Sort of the texture or color overlaying the substance. Like the church took this nugget of truth and decided to use it as an opportunity to talk shit about the ladies, 'cause, you know, they were going to get to that at the meeting next Wednesday, but they might as well throw in on the Eden myth thing while they're thinking of it.

That nugget of truth, I think, is about leaving behind the Garden (the place of animalistic bliss where there was no morality or conscience) and entering into the complicated realm of people-hood and self-awareness and good and evil and all that craziness.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: I'm either retarded or phsyco! -- a light, 07:10:58 01/27/06 Fri [1]

I'm with all the others on this, Jes.

I know you've been with him many years and it's hard to imagine living another way. Maybe this situation can go on and on, and you'll continue to adapt to it.

But I do think you can live a better life, and I think that you sound just about ready for a real change.

This might seem cut and dried, but yes, you have to get rid of him. Prepare yourself in any ways that you can, and do it. Don't feel guilty, don't hold hope for it getting better, don't feel you need any easily explainable reason. This relationship has been a source of frustration and unhappiness for you for a long, long time.

There's no point trying to second-guess his behavior, or even your own right now. It's very hard to see the situation when you're in the middle of it, but believe me-- once he's gone, and you've given yourself some time to adjust (which might be difficult and painful at first, but you can take it), you're going to be able to look back on the relationship with a clear mind and heart. And I'll bet you anything in the world you want, you'll be saying "Why the Hell did I put up with that for so long?!?"

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: I'm either retarded or phsyco! -- Iymlad, 09:43:39 01/27/06 Fri [1]

The older the writings of the bible, the more and more
>anti-woman it gets."

I would say that all thoss are "new interpretations". We can't use any christian versions. It goes back to the Hebrew and there are hidden meanings in the letters and numerology (things not transfered in translations). I don't believe for one moment that the original intent was to portray women negatively.

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