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Date Posted: 19:24:28 03/08/06 Wed
Author: amadaun
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Jabs........
Just read an article by a retired vaccine researcher who worked for the National Institute of Health. The information is staggering in its implications. Anyone considering vaccinating their loved ones or themselves should read this first.
I have copied and pasted the most appalling paragraphs. The whole article at -http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/VaccineResearcher.html
Q: Okay, but let's ignore that distinction between different types of contaminants for a moment. What contaminants did you find in your many years of work with vaccines?
A: All right. I'll give you some of what I came across, and I'll also give you what colleagues of mine found. Here's a partial list.
In the Rimavex measles vaccine, we found various chicken viruses.
In polio vaccine, we found acanthamoeba, which is a so-called "brain-eating" amoeba.
Simian cytomegalovirus in polio vaccine.
Simian foamy virus in the rotavirus vaccine. Bird-cancer viruses in the MMR vaccine.
Various micro-organisms in the anthrax vaccine. I've found potentially dangerous enzyme inhibitors in several vaccines.
Duck, dog and rabbit viruses in the rubella vaccine.
Avian leucosis virus in the flu vaccine.
Pestivirus in the MMR vaccine.
Q: Let me get this straight. These are all contaminants which don't belong in the vaccines.
A: That's right. And if you try to calculate what damage these contaminants can cause, well, we don't really know because no testing has been done, or very little testing. It's a game of roulette. You take your chances.
Also, most people don't know that some polio vaccines, adenovirus vaccines, rubella, hep[atitis] A and measles vaccines have been made with aborted human foetal tissue.
I have found what I believed were bacterial fragments and polio virus in these vaccines from time to time, which may have come from that foetal tissue. When you look for contaminants in vaccines, you can come up with material that is puzzling.
You know it shouldn't be there, but you don't know exactly what you've got. I have found what I believed was a very small "fragment" of human hair and also human mucus. I have found what can only be called "foreign protein", which could mean almost anything. It could mean protein from viruses.
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Re: Jabs........ -- lump, 08:38:40 03/09/06 Thu [1]
And I caught hell from my son's doctors (it was a big office with like 6 doctors I loved, now there's like 2 and they both suck) for not vaccinating my son for menengitus. And I feel totally guilty for letting a doctor talk me into getting him a chicken pox vaccine when he was really little. I totally believe the drug companies are the ones teaching these kids in med school. I just will always remember the first thing my best friends professor told her (in some drug class). "If you knew what pills did to your body - you wouldn't even take an asperin. EVER!" I imagine that's tenfold for injections!
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Re: Jabs........ -- tg, 08:49:12 03/09/06 Thu [1]
You are free to make the choice, we (Cdns) are not allowed to have our kids in school if they aren't vaccinated. If you are a parent who doesn't want them to be, you have a fight on your hands. I recieved a letter once that my son was not allowed in school until I updated his vaccinations. I don't have a problem with it, I think vaccinations are helpful. I read your post amadaun, but there are foreign articles that can be found in a bathtub or your bed or your socks. We can't live in a world were they are not everywhere. That's the way I see it.
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Re: Jabs........ -- taurus, 08:56:07 03/09/06 Thu [1]
Lump, if you knew what was growing in your bathtub, you wouldn't bath in it either.
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Re: Jabs........ -- lump, 09:11:15 03/09/06 Thu [1]
Oh yeah, well you have mites in your eyebrows! :P
LOL! Everyone does. It's creepy.
My Mom has a theory that the aliens are already here - we call them viruses.
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Re: Jabs........ -- taurus, 10:03:28 03/09/06 Thu [1]
Thanks, now I'm going to go shave off my eyebrows. LOL
How about penicilin, it's bacteria.
I bet you there is ecoli in your bath water, and there is semonila on your chicken. Safe levels anyhow, not enough to make you sick.
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Re: Jabs........ -- 23, 10:12:04 03/09/06 Thu [1]
Semonila? The flour? (salmonella)
And there isn't any if you cook it all the way through. And baths are pretty much gross. How can you pretend to be clean when you're sitting in a pool of your own filth? Showers are the only way to go.
Yep, there are mites living at the base of each of your eyebrows, your intestines are filled with bacteria, your bed (and pillow) is filled with bedbug feces, etc.
But these are all critters that have co-evolved with us to be able to live with us (and in many cases we can't live without them) without causing us harm (except in cases of allergies). In the case of the potential harms found in vaccines - this is technology that is only a little over 100 years old, no co-evolution here. We have no idea what kinds of long term harm can come from exposing ourselves to these viruses and bacteria. There should be serious studies going on to track links between illness and these vaccines, but there are financial pressures running counter to that need.
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Re: Jabs........ -- lump, 10:28:45 03/09/06 Thu [1]
Twan - vaccines are something you and your wife will want to look into - because your baby will be forced to have all kinds for the next 5 years!
(just pulling that to your attention - because I hadn't thought about it beforehand. That and circumcision. I was young and that stuff just never occured to me.)
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Re: Jabs........ -- tg, 10:36:34 03/09/06 Thu [1]
"And there isn't any if you cook it all the way through. And baths are pretty much gross. How can you pretend to be clean when you're sitting in a pool of your own filth? Showers are the only way to go."
~~~ I can't help it, I love a good bubble bath, candles and music. Calgon take me away!! Oh and you know the bubbles are soap and they're going to kill those critters. J/K
It's always wise to shower after a bath.
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Re: Jabs........ -- lump, 10:43:03 03/09/06 Thu [1]
I have an old clawfoot tub that I love. But I will not take a bath without first scrubbing my tub and secondly for the purpose of cleaning. I will put some nice lilac bubble bath in it and light the candles to relax. Like once every 6 months (because the truth is I can't relax).
But the thought of my bf's feet on the tub or the fact that SO MANY of you pee in the tub is pretty good justification to clean the tub out each time.
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Re: Jabs........ -- 23, 10:47:38 03/09/06 Thu [1]
We've already been talking about circumcision. Not sure what we're going to do about that if it's a boy. I see pros and cons for doing either.
But if it's a girl, we're definitely having her circumsized.
(joke)
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Re: Jabs........ -- lump, 10:53:24 03/09/06 Thu [1]
Good - you've talked about it. I never even considered it the entire time I was pregnant! It I would have know that they did not anestitize (sp?) them back then - I would have never done it. I just didn't know - hadn't thought about it - never occurred to me. They do numb the area now - but that's really a pretty big decision.
Sorry for the derailing! Back to vaccinations! How many of you get a flu shot every year?
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Re: Jabs........ -- tg, 11:11:18 03/09/06 Thu [1]
We used to have circumsisions covered by healthcare, but now parents have to pay $80 for it. The government says there are no health concerns about not having it done, which was what they thought back in the 70's was that the foreskin could become infected. Anyway I'm sure it's just an excuse to stop paying for it.
I do get a flu shot every two years, I've found that it works for me.
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Re: Jabs........ -- 23, 11:15:54 03/09/06 Thu [1]
I don't get flu shots.
I got a couple back in college, but the last one I got actually gave me the flu. I'll get sick for free, thank you.
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Re: Jabs........ -- lump, 11:16:41 03/09/06 Thu [1]
I have a friend though who was so self-concious about it because he didn't have one in a world where EVERYONE else did. And the older you get, supposedly the worse the surgery is (although how do they know how bad it is for a baby?). Anyhow - that's a tough call - especially when you don't have a penis yourself!
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Re: Jabs........ -- 23, 11:23:08 03/09/06 Thu [1]
I lean toward getting it done, but I have heard horror stories about surgeries gone wrong and gender re-assignments being done. Very rare, but it's basically the only reason I can think of not do it.
As far as the trauma is concerned, I'd imagine the process of being born is much more traumatic than circumcision.
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Re: Jabs........ -- taurus, 11:48:21 03/09/06 Thu [1]
On a more current topic, what about the shot for the bird flu? Are you going to get that?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060308/wl_canada_afp/healthflu_060308201310
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Re: circumcision -- amadaun, 18:26:44 03/09/06 Thu [1]
Circumcision takes all the fun away, I mean, that little foreskin is fun to play with.
Add that to your pro's and con's list, Twan :-)
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The saddest story ......... -- amadaun, 19:21:42 03/09/06 Thu [1]
http://www.mercola.com/blog/2006/feb/20/useless_vaccines_destroy_a_childs_health_forever
If you go and read this account of a child's life destroyed by Hep B vaccine, it will truely make you think twice about giving jabs to yourself or your kids.
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Re: Jabs........ -- amadaun, 19:33:16 03/09/06 Thu [1]
***You are free to make the choice, we (Cdns) are not allowed to have our kids in school if they aren't vaccinated. If you are a parent who doesn't want them to be, you have a fight on your hands.***
Make a stand. Say no. Contact support networks via the Internet. Your child is worth it.
**I read your post amadaun, but there are foreign articles that can be found in a bathtub or your bed or your socks.**
Yes, but do you want diseases injected directly into your child, bypassing the normal defences of the immune system? The body is set up to defend itself from disease when it enters through the nose,mouth, or via a wound. But sticking it straight into your bloodstream doesn't give your body a chance to bring these defences into play.
And believe me, Cytomegalovirus, bird and monkey viruses are not something you want inside of you. Salmonella is nothing beside these kind of things.
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Re: Jabs........ -- lump, 08:38:20 03/10/06 Fri [1]
I've also seen pros and cons as to whether or not autism comes from vaccinations. I had a friend who had a normal child until after vaccinations and she now has a severe case of autism. I posted about that once, though - and I think it was Laurieanne who had an autistic child or child in the family who disagreed? I haven't done much research - but I know there are facts both ways out there to study!
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Re: Jabs........ -- taurus, 08:54:09 03/10/06 Fri [1]
My son is autistic and so I've heard that in alot of my research.They alos say certain dyes are the reason and foreclamp deliveries. My son was delivered that way. He got his first vaccination when he was 3 months old. I forgot which ones they give you and then they give you the second batch at around a year and they are different ones from the first two or three. Anyway, I would say I noticed signs of him being different from the other kids when he was about 10 months old. (I thought he was a genius, but that's another story). He would have been too young to think it was the second batch that effected him, if it did. I know my brother in law and my husband when they were kids had alot of the same characteristics, and they were never diagnosed. If anything my son has inherited PDD (progressive development disorder) from them. Were they effected from vaccinations, I don't know. Again the way we're susceptible to different things is always different. You know before AIDS no-one used to wear latex gloves in hospitals and such, now there are people who are allergic to latex. Why are some people effected and others are not. I don't know!
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Re: Jabs........ -- amadaun, 18:52:56 03/12/06 Sun [1]
The link between vaccination and autism is though to be the mercury which is present in most vaccines, though they are finally phasing out the use of mercury in childhood shots. [Flu shots will still contain it]
Mercury is a potent neurotoxin [brain poison] which in some susceptible individuals may be related to their autism. The good news is, if the mercury can be successfully removed when the child is young, the autism could be cured!
A child diagnosed in the '40s with autism, was treated for rheumatoid arthritis as a twelve year old. The treatment back then was gold salts, which coincidentally happen to bind to mercury. [Gold is commonly used to filter out mercury ]
Anyway, the boy's autistic behaviour was so much improved that he went on to live a totally normal life!
This treatment is currently under investigation, and hopefully will be trialed. Read the full story at-
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20051223-13504700-bc-ageofautism.xml
Another way to remove mercury from the body is the use of Chlorella. A good article on this is the Mercury Detox Autism Protocol. Also explains why mercury could be the culprit in many childrens autism.
http://www.mercola.com/2001/jun/2/mercury_autism.htm
I hope some of this may be of use to you in your research, Taurus. Best of luck to you and your son.
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Re: Jabs........ -- taurus, 19:41:06 03/12/06 Sun [1]
The Clhorella sounds interesting. I never knew children were diagnosed back in the 40's with autism.
Onething that I would like to point out is that most children with autism will outgrow it their behaviours and characteritics. They are always improving, it's not something that stays the same and they can even overcome most of their learning difficulties and live a totally normal life. My pediatrician told me children with autism have even obtained PHd's. I think they are looking into the reasons for autism and they are trying to find a relationship in a few things, like the foreseps delivery and dyes in certain foods. My son was delivered with foreseps and he was given his first vaccination at 3 months, so those may be two possibilities.
Just one more thing about vaccinations, boys and girls seem to react to them differently. My son always got a fever and a sore leg and my girls never had any reactions. I've talked to a few people about it and they agreed with me.
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Re: Jabs........ -- amadaun, 19:47:13 03/12/06 Sun [1]
****Just one more thing about vaccinations, boys and girls seem to react to them differently. My son always got a fever and a sore leg and my girls never had any reactions. I've talked to a few people about it and they agreed with me.***
This could be because the mercury affects boys differently to girls? Apparently mercury is more toxic to boys than girls, and the male to female ratio in autism is 4 to 1.
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Re: Jabs........ -- taurus, 19:56:07 03/12/06 Sun [1]
That's probably why they are lookng at that relationship. They are saying what's the link with mercury in boys and autism in boys.
Where can I find the Chlorella? I'm going to have to look for it and test it out.
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Re: Jabs........ -- tg, 19:58:52 03/12/06 Sun [1]
I looked it up and it looks like you can find it in most vitamin and health food stores.
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Re: Jabs........ -- stillreign, 03:50:09 03/13/06 Mon [1]
This made me wonder, what are the current rules in the US at the moment regarding kids entering school and for overseas travel?
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Chlorella -- amadaun, 17:47:13 03/14/06 Tue [1]
Taurus........
I think it would be helpful to have a natural health practitioner oversee the detox procedure [if you can afford it]. Often with detox there can be a worsening of symptoms, as the toxins are mobilised out of tissue and into the bloodstream. Known sometimes as a 'healing crisis' it can occur days or even a week into treatment.
Some people also recommend chelation for HM removal, but I heard a child died recently during this treatment. I don't know all the details, but I think a natural detox would be safer.
http://tuberose.com/Metal_Detoxification.html
Chlorella: Is a food-like all purpose mild chelator of heavy metals; it is a specially processed green-algae type of food that is taken with meals and is quite tolerable and pleasant for many. But since chlorella is so easily contaminated, the manufacturer’s quality control is important.
Cilantro: stimulates the body's release of mercury and other heavy metals from the brain and CNS into other tissue. This facilitates the ability to remove heavy metal from the body using other dietary protocols, such as Chorella and other chlorophyll containing herbs such as Nettles and Alfalfa. These herbs aid in detoxifying by denaturing the toxins, protecting and restoring normal cellular functions while promoting elimination
Let me know how you get on!!
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Stilly......... -- amadaun, 17:35:16 03/15/06 Wed [1]
***....what are the current rules in the US at the moment regarding kids entering school and for overseas travel?***
I think each state is different in its requirements. I have read of parents having to fight the system to get their kids into school without vaccinating.
The crazy thing is, if they believe vaccinations work, why would they be worried about a few unvaccinated kids at school? I guess it's a control thing, they think that are doing good by forcing you to vaccinate. Take your choice away, because they don't think you're bright enough to make that decision for yourself. 'Nanny' state strikes again.
But if something is so safe and effective, why do people not want to do it? Why do they have to be pressured?
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