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Date Posted: 12:10:15 03/09/06 Thu
Author: taurus
Subject: Spiderman 3
I heard in the new Spiderman 3, Tobey Mcguire will be wearing an all black suit, instead of the usual blue and red one. Has Spidey ever worn a black suit before, and why the change?
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Re: Spiderman 3 -- lump, 12:14:12 03/09/06 Thu [1]
Venom wears black.
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Re: Spiderman 3 -- tg, 12:28:32 03/09/06 Thu [1]
I thought it may have someting to do with the storyline, but you are saying it's Venom.
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Re: Spiderman 3 -- 23, 12:29:29 03/09/06 Thu [1]
Long story, but yes.
The "black suit" in the comic is actually an alien symbiote. Peter Parker wore it briefly, but other individuals went on to wear it more often (as Venom). Sometimes they were allies of Spidey, sometimes they were enemies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venom_%28comics%29
Rumor has it that Topher Grace (from That 70s Show) will be playing the character who wears the black suit. I imagine they are going to alter the origins a bit for the movie - Spidey found the suit on an alien planet in the comics.
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Re: Spiderman 3 -- lump, 13:30:02 03/09/06 Thu [1]
You know, out of all of the comic book movies - aside from League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (which I saw recently and is my favorite), I'd say the Spiderman movies have been the BEST! Normally, I'd be dreading a 3rd sequal, but they've been good so far - and I think #2 was even better than #1.
Mr. Mom (and head of the Rex parade this year) made a good Batman, though. So did Val Kilmer. But I still think Spiderman has been better.
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Re: Spiderman 3 -- 23, 13:50:17 03/09/06 Thu [1]
The League was soooo weak compared to the original graphic novel. And I'm not one of those purists or anything, it just lost everything that made the original so great. All of the grit and humanity was replaced with gloss and heroism.
Just to give an example, in the original graphic novel, Quatermain is found in an opium den fucked up beyond belief and in the midst of a slow suicide. The invisible guy is found because he'd been molesting girls in the guise of a "ghost" at an all-girl's school. Really disappointed in the flick, to be honest.
But yeah, the spidey movies have been great. X-Men have been really good, too. I also loved The Hulk movie. Another one of my favorite superhero movies (though, not based on a comic book superhero) was Unbreakable. Great flick.
I love all of these movies, but I'm most psyched for V for Vendetta. Just a week away!
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Re: Spiderman 3 -- tg, 13:53:49 03/09/06 Thu [1]
I loved the Superman movies the best!
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Re: Spiderman 3 -- lump, 14:11:04 03/09/06 Thu [1]
Hmmm - maybe I'll have to read the book. I hadn't, so I didn't look at the movie in the same way you did.
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Re: Spiderman 3 -- 23, 14:28:06 03/09/06 Thu [1]
You should, it's a blast. And the sequel is great, too. Apparently Mr. Moore is about to release the third & final volume as well.
He really is one of my favorite authors, period.
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Re: Spiderman 3 -- Robert, 05:46:04 03/10/06 Fri [1]
The black costume was found during the first Secret Wars series. It actually "fell in love" with Peter Parker, and When Parker stopped wearing the suit, it turned on him. The black suit is responsible for Venom and Carnage. I can only imagine what a Venom or Carnage Spiderman movie would be like...considering that Carnage can do things like the villan in T2 did with that liquid special effect. It's been over 10 years since computer animation did that...long enough for Moore's law to have made that kind of special effect look like child's play compared to what could be done now. :)
If I remember correctly, Parker wore the suit a few more times, and even had another non-alien black suit made. He broke it out every couple of years. The first one made him stronger than he had ever been, but it was also driving him crazy as I recall.
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Re: Spiderman 3 -- taurus, 07:57:52 03/10/06 Fri [1]
Ooooo! It sounds like an excellent story to me!! Larger than life in a movie.
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Re: Spiderman 3 -- Robloader, 19:08:10 03/10/06 Fri [1]
I have to go back through my Spiderman comics (I collected the original series, and then the McFarlane series up to like #50). If I am not mistaken, Peter got freaked out when...while wearing the black suit, he beat the shit out of the Hulk. That's when he knew that something was very wrong.
I'm pretty sure that's how it went. It's either that, or he started maiming his enemies. Spiderman never really hurts his enemies. He whoops up on them, and leaves them frustrated and all webbed up for the authorities, but he doesn't beat people down.
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