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Date Posted: 15:43:54 02/17/06 Fri
Author: chrys
Subject: Re: fire and spirituality
In reply to: chrys 's message, "fire and spirituality" on 03:41:02 02/17/06 Fri

sweet, that book sounds really awesome.

i guess (for iym) my point boiled down is that we don't name a realm for it. people tend to split things (like health, for example) into mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, but we don't have a category like that for the fire things, and if a person says spiritual, which i think comes closest, anyone else in the conversation will not think of the fiery things. so my point is, socially, when we split things up and ask people about their physical/emotional/mental/spiritual health or well-being, we don't have the words for the fire. we don't say how is your passion health doing? how is your vitality? my point really, is that part gets overlooked.

and also that we tend to separate spirituality from those things. not everyone, but as a general rule in our society. just like we separate the spiritual from the body (with all those doctrines about denying base, animal and earthly desires) we all separate spirituality from a sense of passion and all of that.

just looking at it like a pie graph and seeing that fire may be somewhat neglected, in language and as a cultural value.

"yes i read it in the new york times
that was on the stands today
it said that dreams are out of fashion
we'll hear no more empty promises
and there'll be no more twisted passions
to clutter up our play
it really was a good sign,
the words went on to say
it shows that we are growing up
in oh so many healthy ways."

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[> [> Re: fire and spirituality -- Iymlad, 08:03:14 02/20/06 Mon [1]

I guess I can see what you are saying, but I don't associate fire with spirituality either. I'd say that we often focus on the mental, physical and emotional, and leave out vitality as well as spitituality. My guess is that, to many people, the mental-physical-emotional health is the result of good vitality and spirituality. We look at the symptoms in the west.

"According to the Greek mathematician and philosopher Pythagoras, five was the number of man, because of the fivefold division of the body, and the ancient Greek division of the soul. According to Pythagoras, the five points of the pentagram each represent one of the five elements that make up man: fire, water, air, earth, and psyche. (energy, fluid, breath, matter, and mind; plasma, liquid, gas, solid, and aethyr)."

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