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Date Posted: 10:18:11 06/01/08 Sun
Author: Chani
Subject: I kind of agree with Esmerelda
In reply to: anyasbuttmonkey 's message, "I think in terms of the press, then yeah, a shit storm would be appropriate..." on 01:22:16 05/31/08 Sat

It is a problem. We know that Saul was seeing Ellen, and we know that Caprica has been made, designed, to seduce males; we also saw her first punching Tigh and then kissing him so the sex must have been consensual, she may even have initiated it, and Tigh may be the most vulnerable one actually but she was still a prisoner and the simple fact that Tigh were supposed to question her but turned the camera off points out he committed something reprehensible. He lied and crossed a line with a prisoner.

I don't think we can compare Tigh to Helo at all because it isn't about forming a relationship with a Cylon, it's about taking advantage of one's position that is a position of power. And it isn't about being in a time war either. Were Saul a cop or a prison warder it would be the same. Remember the prison warder in Oz who fucked Ryan O'Reilly ?

Helo and Athena got together on Caprica, they were already a couple, and Hera wasn't conceived when she was in the brick but a long time before that and as Helo didn't even know she was a Cylon. Helo may be guilty for falling in love with a Cylon and still loving Sharon as she was in the brick and finally marrying her, but he didn't use his position to visit a Cylon pretending to do his job while he was actually screwing her as she was kept within the walls of a prison.

Having said that, we don't know what Caprica told Cottle or Adama, but I bet that they both knew it wasn't a rape. Bill has always been very indulgent when it comes to Saul's weaknesses and mistakes so I am not surprised that after he expressed his anger he finally didn't punish him. It's totaly in character.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> You see, my approach to it is that Caprica, in the strictest sense of the word, isn't a prisoner... -- anyasbuttmonkey, 17:00:00 06/01/08 Sun [1]

Which is where our thoughts diverge :) I think it's one of those "agree to disagree" situations, but that's why I love this show!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: You see, my approach to it is that Caprica, in the strictest sense of the word, isn't a prisoner... -- Esmerelda, 16:51:01 06/02/08 Mon [1]

See, as long as she's in the brig, IMO, she's a prisoner, cause she's you know, in the brig, under lock and key.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Mmmmm.... -- Chani, 18:15:09 06/02/08 Mon [1]

She chose to be there but she's a prisoner still. Just liek Faith was a prisoner when she was in jail in L.A...

You're wrong my little cousin, don't fight! ;- )


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